Anyone notice strange announcements for

John Payne john at
Tue Jan 13 13:55:40 UTC 2009

On Jan 13, 2009, at 12:05 AM, Paul Wall wrote:

> On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 7:29 PM, Leo Bicknell <bicknell at>  
> wrote:
>> You really should make some friends Randy.
> He is, on Second Life.
> Seriously though... I've not seen any discussion of the application of
> "allowas-in", a valid neighbor configuration under certain
> topologies/scenarios, as relates to impact today.  Also, I'd agree
> announcing other peoples' ASNs, without their permission, is in bad
> form.  It's okay he's doing it to you, but I bet Randy would be a lot
> less smiley if you were to announce random paths with 3130.

You should've seen the email storm and panic created when I prepended  
an AS to avoid a blackhole.  I got the right people interested in  
talking to me at least, but boy-o-boy were people confused about what  
I was doing.

I guess the problem is that AS PATH is overloaded and people forget  
that the primary purpose is loop-avoidance.  Everything else is  
secondary and much like reading Received headers in SMTP mail, you  
really should take everything after your direct neighbor's AS with a  
grain of salt.

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