Follow up to previous post regarding SAAVIS

Joe Provo nanog-post at
Wed Aug 12 21:06:43 CDT 2009

On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 05:55:10PM -0500, Richard A Steenbergen wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 05:41:03PM -0400, Joe Provo wrote:
> > Most ISPs don't have that level of management clue & willpower, as the 
> > same "but they will go to $competator who doesn't require it!" which 
> > has screwed up everything from domain registration to responsible BGP 
> > announcements fouls the customer interface as well. Account reps wanting
> > an exception 'just this once' are the norm.
> I would make the opposite argument, my business would NEVER go to any
> network which didn't support IRR (and a bunch of other simple but
> important things, like a full set of non-secret BGP communities). 

You and I would agree, but there are far more edge ASNs than mine, 
and last I checked you weren't running an edge.  Just as with any
commoditization, the large number of buyers tends to win out. If 
the world we wished existied, 3561 wouldn't have lost their good
provider-hosted-IRR based filters.



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