New Intercage upstream

Gadi Evron ge at
Fri Sep 12 14:03:59 CDT 2008

On Fri, 12 Sep 2008, Lamar Owen wrote:
> On Friday 12 September 2008 04:29:13 marcus.sachs at wrote:
> For your reading enjoyments, their peering guidelines verbiage is at
> and their transit SLA is
> at

They don't seen to have ANY other clients than Intercage. Seems like the 
same operation to me. No?

> The differences in the termination clauses of the two agreements make
> interesting reading.  If a bit dull.
> In summary, for this specific network exchange's situations only:
> 1.) Peers may be terminated for a number of reasons (or for no reason at all,
> with 30 days notice).  There is of course the normal 'no transit through our
> network' verbiage, and a temporary instant disconnect clause for serious
> problems (clauses 5.2 and 5.3).  Patrick's favorite clause will likely be
> 5.5, where PIE reserves the right to refuse interconnection with or without
> any reason. I find it most interesting that they feel the need to enumerate
> an obvious right of a provider not normally worth mentioning.
> 2.) Customers have more rights than peers (obviously; consideration is
> changing hands).  One relevant section is IV(C) of their SLA.  They at least
> say the tough line against spam, and a depeering notice from one of their
> peers carries great weight (as it should, of course).  But, in section IV(I)
> PIE makes a connection guarantee.  That is their right to do, obviously, but
> gives the customer the right to the connection as long as the customer plays
> by the rules.  No arbitrary disconnect ability there, for transit customers
> at least. The agreement even warrants that PIE has the authority to grant the
> rights under that agreement.  Interesting wording.
> So if you want to be able to shut down a BGP session at a whim, you'd best
> make sure your agreement you executed allows for that; or exercise your right
> as a provider to refuse the customer, one or the other.
> It will be interesting to see how long this link stays active.  And how long
> it takes for Intercage to find another upstream.  Money talks.

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