Q: What do ISPs really think about security issues?

Paul Ferguson fergdawg at netzero.net
Fri Jan 11 02:20:46 UTC 2008


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- -- "Suresh Ramasubramanian" <ops.lists at gmail.com> wrote:

>On Jan 11, 2008 1:17 AM, Rob Thomas <robt at cymru.com> wrote:
>
>> I'll second this point.  We've had great luck working with providers
>> globally, but only after folks (such as Sean) took us under their
>> wing and mentored us on the processes and setups that best help
>> ISPs.  That alone would make a great *NOG presentation.
>
>Setups that best help *ISPs*?  The fun part is that there's this
>fundamental disconnect even within ISPs .. their CERT guys or security
>guys go talk to each other, their abuse desks go talk to each other,
>their packet pushers go talk to each other .. at
>nspsec/gadicon/whatever, at MAAWG, at *NOG ..
>
>There's little or no cross pollination between these groups, if at
>all.   It is this kind of gap that needs to be bridged, just as much
>as the gaps between ISPs and LE, ISPs and the anti phishing community
>(banks etc, + the takedown vendor crowd), ISPs and the security
>community etc etc needs bridging.

Thanks, Suresh.

I think you hit the nail on the head with regards to some of the
frustrations being experienced in this area.

- - ferg

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