WG Action: Conclusion of IP Version 6 (ipv6)
Randy Bush
randy at psg.com
Thu Sep 27 23:59:53 UTC 2007
>>> So run IPv6 natively and your tunneling issues are history.
>> son, get a clue. i work for the first isp on the bleeping planet
>> to deploy native ipv6
> I beg to differ. Add the word "commercial" and I might agree.
whoops! <blush> apologies!
> eliminating tunnels does not make all of the IPv6 problems go away.
> It just eliminates the ones caused by the use of tunnels.
in and of itself, this is a good thing. tunnels suck caterpillar snot.
> The REAL problems are not going anywhere for a long time, if ever.
indeed, many will be with us for a long time. but there are a bunch we
could knock off in a few years
o dual stack backbones (and it's as much the vendors as the isps here)
o dual stack consumer cpe
o routers that hold 2m routes *with churn* from enterprise to backbone
o test equipment to differentiate vendor hot air from actual
performance
o nat-pt with standardized algs for at least dns, smtp, http, sip, and
rtp
randy
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