WG Action: Conclusion of IP Version 6 (ipv6)

Kevin Oberman oberman at es.net
Thu Sep 27 23:45:08 UTC 2007

> Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2007 11:57:07 -1000
> From: Randy Bush <randy at psg.com>
> Sender: owner-nanog at merit.edu
> > So run IPv6 natively and your tunneling issues are history.
> son, get a clue.  i work for the first isp on the bleeping planet to
> deploy native ipv6

I beg to differ. Add the word "commercial" and I might agree.

Sitting under my desk is the first system in the US with a production IP
address. (No, it's not still running. It's an old DEC Alphstation.)
ESnet has run native IPv6 as a fully supported production service for

Randy is right that eliminating tunnels does not make all of the IPv6
problems go away. It just eliminates the ones caused by the use of
tunnels. The REAL problems are not going anywhere for a long time, it
R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer
Energy Sciences Network (ESnet)
Ernest O. Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory (Berkeley Lab)
E-mail: oberman at es.net			Phone: +1 510 486-8634
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