Amazon?

Mon Aug 21 20:51:18 UTC 2006

That whois stuff is meaningless.  When are people going to get it that
it really isn't a "hack".

> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-nanog at merit.edu [mailto:owner-nanog at merit.edu] On 
> Behalf Of Jon R. Kibler
> Sent: Monday, August 21, 2006 1:36 PM
> To: Elijah Savage
> Cc: Brandon Galbraith; nanog at nanog.org; Steven M. Bellovin
> Subject: Re: Amazon?
> 
> I am currently in the DC area. It appears that Amazon came up 
> about 20 minutes ago.
> 
> SANS ISC has a little info on the problem. Quoting from 
> http://isc.sans.org/diary.php?n&storyid=1625 :
> > UPDATE:
> > 
> > Diligent Reader Corwin Grey points out:
> > 
> > "Amazon may be having more than a 'little' trouble. :/ 
> Check out their whois:
> > 
> > 
> >   Server Name: AMAZON.COM.IS.N0T.AS.1337.AS.WWW.GULLI.COM
> >   IP Address: 80.190.192.24
> >   Registrar: KEY-SYSTEMS GMBH
> >   Whois Server: whois.rrpproxy.net
> >   Referral URL: http://www.key-systems.net
> > 
> >  <snip>"
> > 
> > Now, amazon.com looks OK from a whois lookup at 
> www.internic.net (record points to Network Solutions) and 
> from a Network Solutions whois lookup.  But, it looks like 
> we've got some whois database hijinks out there for some of 
> the whois servers and the www.amazon.com info.
> > 
> > Reader Sean points out that these gulli folks do this kind 
> of thing a lot to sites like Amazon.com, Microsoft, and 
> others, and these whois hijinks are likely independent of the 
> back-end problems that Amazon.com appears to be having.  I agree.
> > 
> > I just now checked, and they seem to be back up...  so, 
> intermittent problem fixed?  For now...  It's not the end of 
> the world.
> > 
> > --Ed Skoudis
> > Intelguardians
> 
> 
> 
> Elijah Savage wrote:
> > Thats strange I am not having any issues at all and I have 
> tested it 
> > from 3 different peering points.
> > 
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Brandon Galbraith <brandon.galbraith at gmail.com>
> > To: Steven M. Bellovin <smb at cs.columbia.edu>
> > Cc: Jon R. Kibler <Jon.Kibler at aset.com>, nanog at nanog.org
> > Sent: Monday, August 21, 2006 3:42:21 PM GMT-0500
> > Subject: Re: Amazon?
> > 
> > Intermittent application/load balancer issues perhaps?
> > 
> > -brandon
> > 
> > On 8/21/06, *Steven M. Bellovin* <smb at cs.columbia.edu 
> > <mailto:smb at cs.columbia.edu>> wrote:
> > 
> > 
> >     On Mon, 21 Aug 2006 15:21:40 -0400, "Jon R. Kibler" <
> >     Jon.Kibler at aset.com <mailto:Jon.Kibler at aset.com>>
> >     wrote:
> > 
> >      > Hi,
> >      >
> >      > Anyone know what is up with Amazon? They appear to be down.
> >      >
> >      > Doesn't appear to be a network issue... tried from 
> two different
> >     ISP's networks.
> >      >
> >     That's odd.  When I try from one path, I get the same 
> error you get;
> >     when
> >     I try another, it works.  A tcptraceroute shows that 
> both are ending
> >     up at
> >     the same IP address at Amazon, too.
> > 
> >                     --Steven M. Bellovin,
> >     http://www.cs.columbia.edu/~smb 
> > <http://www.cs.columbia.edu/%7Esmb>
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > --
> > Brandon Galbraith
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> > --thelost"
> > 
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