Attn MCI/UUNet - Massive abuse from your network
Steve Linford
linford at spamhaus.org
Tue Jun 29 20:15:25 UTC 2004
From Ben Browning, received 29/6/04, 9:56 am -0700 (GMT):
> Steve Linford wrote:
>> The statement by Ben Browning: "I know several businesses who have,
>> and a great many people who have blocked UUNet space from sending
>> them email ... by using ... the SBL" is false, the SBL has never
>> blocked UUNet/MCI IP space that wasn't directly in the control of
>> spammers. If Mr Browning does indeed know "several businesses and a
>> great many people" whose UUNet/MCI IP space has been blocked by the
>> SBL, then Mr Browning knows several spam outfits and a great many
>> spammers.
>
> Let me rephrase: I know several businesses and a great many people who
> block *parts* of UUNet by the SBL and *larger* parts of it by means
> of SPEWS, blackholes.us, et al.
I obviously read more into it than you meant, sorry (I though you
were implying we were blocking MCI IPs above and in addition to IPs
belonging to spammers, something we try hard not to do).
> Regardless, the SBL does block *some* UUNet space, much of
> which(according to responses here) no longer belongs to the
> spammers.
That's correct. At a guess I'd say possibly even 20% of our MCI
listings are stale, and we don't know which ones. Without illegally
scanning the MCI IPs to see what's running there we have very little
way of knowing which spammers are departed or not, because MCI/UUNet
Abuse will not tell us.
Unlike listings of normal providers which tend to manage themselves,
MCI SBL listings continue to grow in number and are removed either
because they've reached their time-out setting or because someone
higher up yells and the Abuse guys get their fingers out. We see
things start to happen when Christopher Morrow gets involved, but
they soon revert if he's not chasing them. Vint Cerf is now aware of
the situation so perhaps more might begin to move and we may soon see
those MCI listings drop down, and maybe a refresh of MCI's AUP
enforcement.
Thanks for voicing your opinion with MCI.
--
Steve Linford
The Spamhaus Project
http://www.spamhaus.org
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