Can a Customer take their IP's with them? (Court says yes!)

Tue Jun 29 05:06:19 UTC 2004

On Jun 29, 2004, at 12:48 AM, Michel Py wrote:

> In short: drop the monkey on ARIN's back. The issue that non-portable
> blocks are indeed non-portable is ARIN's to deal with, and partly why 
> we
> are giving money to them.

I wonder why ARIN, or even more importantly, ICANN has not jumped all 
over this.  Seems to me if IP space is not "owned" or something close 
to it by ICANN, they have lost a cornerstone of their power.

> b) _do_ announce the specific block routed to null0 (ARIN has delegated
> this space to you, if you want to announce unallocated parts of it to a
> blackhole it's nobody's business to tell you that you can't).

DO NOT DO THIS.  The TRO specifically prohibits him from doing these 
types of things.  Breaking the TRO will have immediate and detrimental 
impact on Alex and NAC.Net.

> c) Ask your upstream to do b) explaining why, they might understand.

Not sure if asking someone to violate provisions of a TRO you cannot do 
yourself would qualify for contempt of court, but I would not risk it.

OTOH, nothing says ISPs cannot do as they please with their own routers 
(and not because Alex or NAC.Net asked them to).  See my previous post 
re: liquor & the next NANOG....

> d) Contact people that blacklist blocks and get it blacklisted there.

See above.

> e) Counter-sue the customer for frivolous lawsuit and anything else you
> can find.

Might be a waste of effort.  Might not.  Don't know all the details.

-- 
TTFN,
patrick