Unplugging spamming PCs
Larry Pingree
lpingree at juniper.net
Thu Jun 24 19:08:58 UTC 2004
Hi John,
I'm not taking it to extremes. I'm talking about the middle of
the road, and certainly spam is the on the top of the scales on
everyone's statistics. I'm certainly not condoning or suggesting that
the government control everything, and I'm not for absolutely no
government involvement either. A balanced approach is most appropriate
just as with anything.... there also can be regional registries similar
to how ARIN is setup that allow inter-continental and inter-country
registration. Unless someone can come up with a better idea, I see no
other choice. FYI, we do already license IP's, through ARIN, APNIC, etc
so that's already been done :)
LP
Best Regards,
Larry
Larry Pingree
"Visionary people, are visionary, partly because of the great many
things they never get to see." - Larry Pingree
-----Original Message-----
From: John Payne [mailto:john at sackheads.org]
Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2004 11:40 AM
To: Larry Pingree
Cc: nanog at nanog.org
Subject: RE: Unplugging spamming PCs
--On Thursday, June 24, 2004 11:17 AM -0700 Larry Pingree
<lpingree at juniper.net> wrote:
>
> Hi Joe,
>
> If only those who are approved email senders are allowed to be
> accepted, this allows police, FBI, or DHS to go after only those who
are
> registered and abusing it. It's for the same purpose that we
administer
> car registrations, so that at the end of the day, someone is
responsible
> for the car. In this case, someone can be responsible for the domain
and
> mail server. In its current state, we are left way in the open. I
don't
> disagree that government control is un-desirable, but remember, at
least
> in my mind, even though it may be undesirable, it may be a necessary
> action. Anyone know why we have to get a drivers license? How about a
> passport? What about a SSN? All of these things are ways in which we
> can have accountability. Without accountability we will remain in
> anarchy. All that government does is bridge a gap when corporations,
> which only do things for profit, will not collaborate on an
appropriate
> solution to a problem, even though one exists.
But why stop at email servers? spam is only one of the unsociable and
illegal acts happening on the Internet. Why not license ownership of
every
IP capable device? That'll stop all forms of DoS (DDoS and otherwise
too).
Just to make sure, let's require that all vendors both inspect the
license
from their customers *and* notify the government on every purchase or
upgrade.
Hmm. Which government though? Better to be safe... you can't be sure
which country the device is being installed in, or which country the
packets flowing through the device will also visit. So let's require
licenses from every country... and vendors to notify every government on
every purchase or upgrade.
Yep, that'll do the trick.
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