Transit and Paid Peering Exchanges

Wed Oct 8 13:20:20 UTC 2003

The last time I looked at Band-X (about six months ago) their pricing was ridiculous...  I believe they wanted >$100/Mb, on a 100Mb commit, for Aleron or HE bandwidth.  It should be noted that Band-X blocks potential buyers from learning the actual name of a transit provider, up until the very last moment (signing contract).  They hide their transit sources behind anonymous "Company A, Company D" and so forth.  Getting the actual name of a source from the band-x sales rep was like pulling teeth.

-Eric Kuhnke
eric at fnordsystems.com

At 01:54 PM 10/8/2003 +0100, you wrote:

>As far as I remember Band-X (http://www.band-x.com) do this.
>
>Dave.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Daniel Golding
>To: Dennis Jewth
>Cc: nanog at merit.edu
>Sent: 08/10/03 10:11
>Subject: Re: Transit and Paid Peering Exchanges
>
>
>Dennis,
>
>I'm not really looking at normal exchanges where some participants offer
>transit or partial transit. I'm looking at exchange fabrics specifically
>set
>up for the purpose of selling services, be they transit, partial
>transit, or
>paid peering.
>
>Most of these exchanges have web based administration, route servers,
>flow
>accounting, or some other combination of services. A good example is
>Equinix's Equinix Direct. Equinix maintains a series of exchange fabrics
>that are primarily for settlement free peering, but also has exchange
>fabrics set up, specifically, for buyers and sellers of services.
>
>Telehouse in NYC was doing something like this, as well. I'm not sure
>how
>far it has progressed.
>
>Thanks,
>Dan
>
>> From: "Dennis Jewth" <Dennis.Jewth at xchangepoint.net>
>> Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2003 10:03:41 +0100
>> To: "Daniel Golding" <dgolding at burtongroup.com>
>> Cc: <nanog at merit.edu>
>> Subject: Re: Transit and Paid Peering Exchanges
>> 
>> Hi Daniel
>> 
>> Really you need to reword that as exchanges used for peering and
>transit
>> provision/delivery, over which some networks may be paying for peering
>> sessions.
>> 
>> We run a MAN in London connecting 7 co-lo's (including THouse North)
>that is
>> used as the
>> delivery platform for transit from the Carriers to ISPs and hosting
>> companies. We are also a peering point.
>> 
>> Paid peering is more common in the US. In Europe some of the larger
>networks
>> are talking about offering paid peering (and there may be already few
>doing
>> it). It's to
>> get that info out in the open from those doing it that's harder (hence
>your
>> mail
>> to Nanog, no doubt).
>> 
>> Are you looking at partial transit as well?
>> 
>> Dennis Jewth
>> XchangePoint Europe
>> www.xchangepoint.net
>> 
>> 
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Daniel Golding" <dgolding at burtongroup.com>
>> To: <nanog at merit.edu>
>> Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2003 9:31 AM
>> Subject: Transit and Paid Peering Exchanges
>> 
>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Doing some research....
>>> 
>>> Anyone have a list of Transit and Paid Peering exchange fabrics?
>>> 
>>> I am interested in both US and EU locations, particularly in
>interesting
>>> sites like 111 8th Ave (NYC), Telehouse North (London) and other
>major
>> telco
>>> hotel type facilities.
>>> 
>>> I'll summarize for the list and repost.
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> -- 
>>> Daniel Golding
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> 
>>
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