Shawn McMahon smcmahon at
Fri May 25 15:08:37 UTC 2001

On Fri, May 25, 2001 at 10:01:52AM -0400, John Fraizer wrote:
> Have you thought about that before sending a large file via email to
> someone?

John, you seem to be assuming that the transfer of files via email is
done on a whim to randomly-selected individuals around the net.

While that may be the case for a large number of people, nobody involved
in this discussion is that clueless.  Hint: they'd probably have an
or email address, and no clue what NANOG is.

> OK.  How is that any different that the time it takes you to send the file
> to the SMTP server?  MOOT!

John, here's the steps involved in sending the file to the SMTP server:

Click "attach".

Select the appropriate directory.

Click on the file.

Or are you assuming that the folks in this discussion don't have LANs, and
are using uuencode and piping through /bin/mail?  I think your information
is about 15 years out of date.

> No.  That's what the uneducated newbie does.  The regular user uploads it
> to their http/ftp server and sends a link to the file via email.

And yet, I continue to exchange files with other system administrators
of Fortune 500 companies.  Guess we're all "uneducated newbies".

> Please don't breed.

When you reach the point where every paragraph contains an ad-hominem,
we can only conclude you don't have a technical argument, and are instead
engaged in knee-jerk reaction.

> If you educate your users, you have no problems.

"Don't use this feature that SMTP was specifically designed to allow, and
that sendmail is default configured to facilitate.  Instead, jump through
a bunch of extra hoops, so that John Frazier will not call you a clueless
newbie.  Trust me, you'll be happier. <click> Hello?  Hello?"

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