RBL quandry - opinions hereby solicited

Mon Nov 16 11:42:01 UTC 1998

Hmm....  Thinking out loud here... (is 4:30 AM)

I wonder how many times this message will be sent.
Otherwords one for each domain?

Does this mean that I have to "opt-out" for each domain I have
registered???? Yuk.

Maybe a new field is needed when creating a domain, 
__ Check here to NOT receive anything except invoices from NSI

Then the thought of complaining to hostmonster at internic.net is not
so good as that means more (non registeration based) email to
be handled by the auto script stuff.

Personally I would like to see NSI respond to this before I say
one way or the other.  RBL'ing NSI would cause some ops problems
and they don't really need any more right now :)

I personally don't want to receive anything from them EXCEPT invoice
notifications, Update Changes, etc.  If I want to purchase something
or learn more about them, I'll surf their web site and maybe signup
for their newsletter thingy. (Thats Opt-IN)

I really hate having to "OPT-OUT" of something, its one more thing
to do and I never know if it will really stick or not.

I don't think I have a solid yes/no answer.  I'll wait for NSI to respond.
Chuck, David??????

jmbrown at ihighway.net

At 02:17 AM 11/16/98 -0800, you wrote:
>The RBL team and I are kind of wondering what to do about some spam we got.
>Because blackholing NSI would be of operational concern to a lot of you, I've
>decided to ponder this question out loud:
>
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>
>Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 08:50:26 PST
>To: rbl at maps.vix.com
>Subject: Paul - value call on this
>
>Technically, this is an opt-out customer-relationship spam.
>
>I think it is a special case, because _there is no where else to go_.
>
>208.226.58.70 should be RBL'ed, IMHO.  Help me.
>
>> Return-Path: owner-admin1 at LISTS.NETSOL.COM
>> Received: from pasteur.netsol.com ([208.226.58.70]) by ns2.galaxy-net.net
>> (8.8.7/8.6.9) with ESMTP id QAA00585; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 16:50:06 -0800 (PST)
>> Received: from pasteur (pasteur [208.226.58.70])
>> 	by pasteur.netsol.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id TAA23788;
>> 	Tue, 10 Nov 1998 19:40:31 -0500 (EST)
>> Received: from LISTS.NETSOL.COM by LISTS.NETSOL.COM (LISTSERV-TCP/IP
release
>>           1.8c) with spool id 0342 for ADMIN1 at LISTS.NETSOL.COM; Tue, 10 Nov
>>           1998 15:01:15 -0500
>> Received: (from listmngr at localhost) by pasteur.netsol.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id
>>           PAA18548 for admin1 at lists.netsol.com; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 15:01:14
>> -0500
>>           (EST)
>> X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25]
>> MIME-Version: 1.0
>> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
>> Message-ID:  <199811102001.PAA18548 at pasteur.netsol.com>
>> Date:         Tue, 10 Nov 1998 15:01:14 -0500
>> Reply-To: admin-remove at LISTS.NETSOL.COM
>> Sender: Owner-Admin <owner-admin at LISTS.NETSOL.COM>
>> From: List Manager Account <listmngr at LISTS.NETSOL.COM>
>> Subject:      Network Solutions' E-Commerce Update
>> To: ADMIN1 at LISTS.NETSOL.COM
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
>> 
>> ###########################
>> 
>> Dear Customer,
>> 
>> You are a valued customer and we want to help increase and
>> protect the value of your domain name. As a free added benefit of
>> your domain name registration, we would like to send you our
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>> try to identify helpful information and news that you can use to
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>> receive this newsletter in the future, simply respond to this
>> e-mail with the word "remove" in the first line of the message.
>> If you have any questions or comments, please send them to
>> hostmaster at internic.net.
>> 
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>
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