different thinking on exchanging traffic

Damian O'Gorman damian at cyberdude.com
Wed May 27 13:03:29 UTC 1998


Who is currently exchanging traffic there ?

Damian

Michael Gibson wrote:

> CANIX is a co-operative peering point for National Canadian Traffic.
>
> Currently, they are seven national ISPs exchanging traffic at that point.
>
> Mike Gibson - Netcom Canada
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Damian O'Gorman <damian at cyberdude.com>
> To: Sean Donelan <SEAN at SDG.DRA.COM>
> Cc: nanog at merit.edu <nanog at merit.edu>
> Date: 5/26/1998 17:31
> Subject: Re: different thinking on exchanging traffic
>
> >> Of course, not every local ISP participates.  The state subsidized
> >> education network doesn't connect, nor do some the dialup ISPs.  But
> >> it gets a reasonable level of support from several of the larger
> >> area providers.
> >>
> >
> >The same type of project was attemted in Toronto. CANIX was essentially set
> >upto cross connect traffic rather than having to traverse the entire US
> >network to get
> >to the other side of Toronto. The problem was, it became an exclusive
> >bilateral peering
> >arrangemt with 6 players. That was 1 1/2 years ago. Currently only 2 are
> >peered. What in fact was the point. UUnet and Sprint were the big players
> up
> >here and nobody appears to want to cooperate.
> >
> >> But exchange points are one of those weird creatures.  If I'm paying
> >> a big expensive backbone, why would I get anything from a local exchange
> >> point?  And of course, the ever popular "What's the catch?"  Since
> >> local exchange points are generally run on a non-profit basis, that
> >> means there isn't a large marketing organization, or a huge gaggle of
> >> salespeople trying to sell it.  If you like, we can call it a "managed
> >> connection" and charge you $1,000/month.  But that seems steep for
> >> essentially a port on a catalyst switch.
> >>
> >>
> >
> >Damian O'Gorman
> >
> >






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