different thinking on exchanging traffic

Michael Gibson magibson at netcom.ca
Wed May 27 12:43:35 UTC 1998


CANIX is a co-operative peering point for National Canadian Traffic.

Currently, they are seven national ISPs exchanging traffic at that point.

Mike Gibson - Netcom Canada
-----Original Message-----
From: Damian O'Gorman <damian at cyberdude.com>
To: Sean Donelan <SEAN at SDG.DRA.COM>
Cc: nanog at merit.edu <nanog at merit.edu>
Date: 5/26/1998 17:31
Subject: Re: different thinking on exchanging traffic


>> Of course, not every local ISP participates.  The state subsidized
>> education network doesn't connect, nor do some the dialup ISPs.  But
>> it gets a reasonable level of support from several of the larger
>> area providers.
>>
>
>The same type of project was attemted in Toronto. CANIX was essentially set
>upto cross connect traffic rather than having to traverse the entire US
>network to get
>to the other side of Toronto. The problem was, it became an exclusive
>bilateral peering
>arrangemt with 6 players. That was 1 1/2 years ago. Currently only 2 are
>peered. What in fact was the point. UUnet and Sprint were the big players
up
>here and nobody appears to want to cooperate.
>
>> But exchange points are one of those weird creatures.  If I'm paying
>> a big expensive backbone, why would I get anything from a local exchange
>> point?  And of course, the ever popular "What's the catch?"  Since
>> local exchange points are generally run on a non-profit basis, that
>> means there isn't a large marketing organization, or a huge gaggle of
>> salespeople trying to sell it.  If you like, we can call it a "managed
>> connection" and charge you $1,000/month.  But that seems steep for
>> essentially a port on a catalyst switch.
>>
>>
>
>Damian O'Gorman
>
>




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