Trans-Atlantic Traffic

Dave Morton Dave.Morton at
Tue Sep 9 09:38:08 UTC 1997

>You need to study some more (European) Internet history.  Among
>other things, you seem to overlook that the EUnet you know today, as
>well as our infrastructure (in many ways similar to Ebone's), was a
>result of political manouvering leading to us being kicked out of
>Ebone at the time (6-7 years ago).  Then the really interesting hard
>work started, building from the ground while Ebone had its US half
>circuits paid by the NSF, and Rick Adams lent us a big helping hand
>during those years.  (There is still much confusion caused by the
>similar names of the two companies, but that's a different story.)

Per - I don't know where you got that story but its not at all true 
that Eunet got kicked out of EBONE. My recollection (and I was present
at the meeting) is that Glenn Kowack withdrew from EBONE at the same
time as Dante and Pipex. EBONE would have been very glad at the time
to have retained EUnet as a member of the consortium. It's also not 
true that NSF paid for EBONE 1/2 circuits - there was a small NSF
contribution (very small part of the total monthly bill) for the port 
charge on the ICM routers and that was it, EBONE paid for the rest of 
the full circuits and in fact this is still the case today.

>As you are probably aware, we have been on very friendly terms with
>Ebone for several years now.

True - and lets keep it that way please.

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