Bay Networks in bed with commie censors?

root root at
Sun Jan 19 04:27:16 UTC 1997

Loud music?

On Sat, 18 Jan 1997, Ehud Gavron wrote:

> When the United States invaded a foreign territory, laid siege to its
> ruler's house, played blaring loud music at it, then broke in, shackled
> him, and took him to Florida, I thought that was interesting.
> When they took this foreign ruler and froze his funds and gave him public
> defenders, I thought that was interesting.
> When they charged him with crimes committed not by him and on his own
> foreign territory (but which impacted the United States), I thought that
> was interesting.
> If the United States is the conscience of the world, then yes, we should
> stop the PRC from setting up this network, prevent those Cubans from taking
> over companies and not giving us Cubanos, and arrest President Noriega
> ("Strongman" is the title the US govt. uses, but as I last thought, that's
> the guy in the circus that lifts weights...) for drug trafficking in Panama.
> If the United States is NOT the conscience of the world, then NO we do not
> need to go arrest foreign leaders, we do NOT need to tell Sadam whom and whom
> not he can attack, and we do NOT confuse Bay Networks and PRC with more
> regulatory tripe.
> I vote nay.
> But then I didn't buy my son an internet provider business either.
> Ehud
> >Ronald Barron Yokubaitis <rony at> wrote:
> >>MMMMMMMMmmmmmmmmmm...........Do the same considerations apply to
> >>BUYING from the PRC?
> >Please.  The original speech was not about trade with PRC which
> >is unquestionably good and desireable; but about cooperation
> >with an organization whose _proclaimed_ goal is to build a
> >politically censored version of Internet, and make uncensored
> >networks completely illegal in PRC.
> >--vadim

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