No offence to anyone involved in this "conversation" but can you all take it elsewhere. Regards, Neil -- Neil J. McRae. Alive and Kicking. E A S Y N E T G R O U P P L C neil at EASYNET.NET NetBSD/sparc: 100% SpF (Solaris protection Factor) Free the daemon in your <A HREF="http://www.NetBSD.ORG/">computer!</A>