pushp at CERF.NET
Wed Nov 2 06:30:14 UTC 1994
Jon 'Iain' Boone writes:
> On Mon, 31 Oct 1994, Vadim Antonov wrote:
> > >cost-effective in a number of applications today. In particular,
> > >the cost of wide-area DS-3 ATM services can be very attractive
> > >when compared to a number of point-to-point DS-3s.
> > TAANSTAFL. You keep forgetting that underneath ATM there are the same
> > SONET or clearline DS-3s/OC-3s etc. So, just by using IP routers
> > instead of ATM switches you get 30% more bandwidth for the same price.
> > ATM does not appear to make economical sense when applied to both
> > data and voice communications. So, from the point of view of a user
> > purchasing something carriers offer ATM may make sense (if carrier
> > does not offer native IP) -- but from the point of view of a carrier
> > ATM does not look that attractive.
> > You still have to run IP over ATM (there's no such thing as native ATM
> > applications yet), and the extra level of encapsulation does not bring
> > anything worth 30% of bandwidth.
> > In terms of real switching capacity (i.e. user data payload) the new
> > generation of IP routers is pretty much close to ATM switches --
> > and quite cheaper.
> But, if you don't need the full 45 Mb/s, you can find a more
> cost-effective solution in the wide-area Fast-packet services. In the
> case of the MCI Hyperstream offerings, you don't have to pay for the
> full amount of a circuit from point A to point B -- you simply pay a
> monthly subscription fee and then a usage charge per Megabyte of data.
> So, you can build a multi-megabit/s backbone that is (say) 10 Mb/s and
> not end up having to purchase the entirety of the DS3 circuits needed to
> provision it.
Vadim works for a phone company, where long haul SONET links are
funny money. Not like the rest of us :-)
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