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Scott Williamson
scottw at internic.net
Wed Feb 2 18:15:55 UTC 1994
>
>
> > I have asked the question many time. "What is a provider?". Once
> > the CIDR allocation started the "Providers" came out of the
> > woodworks. No one so far has given an answer to the question that
> > the majority can agree with. I will not be at the regional tech
> > meeting in CA but Mark will. I don't know a group better suited
> > to answer the question that established providers. Do us a favor
> > and come up with a proposed answer to "What is a provider". I
> > will work with NSF and Postel to make it policy. This would make
> > our life easier.
>
> The "regional-techs" group is not a suitable group to make policy
> about who can and can't be a network service provider. For quite a
> while in its life, it was a group that had no intention of letting
> non-NSF sponsored networks have any access to their meetings.
> As a result there is very close to no participation by any of the
> emerging public access Internet providers, the very group that is
> most likely to want to get address blocks of their own to hand out to
> their customers.
I was not asking regional-techs to make policy. I was asking for help
defining "what is a provier ?". Things are changing very fast ....
i do not want to wake up six months from now to find that the allocations
done incorrectly or should have been done more effienctly. I only ask for
help in making the determination of where to or if to draw the line. Messages
from Richard, John, and Bill were very helpful. A gread deal of concern has
been express about this question. The definition may not really matter and
after asking this question for the last year i don't know if there is a
definition.
********* This is happening more and more ( 1 to 2 new per day )******
I just setup a network to be a IP service provider. I am connected to
provider A and they are connected to provider B the interconnection to
other network only occur at provider B. I want MY block of 256 or 1024.
*********************************************************************
Scott
>
> I think we have to be very careful here. When we make policy that
> adversely affects someone's business interests we're just begging for
> a suit. Especially with the *perceived* "shortage" or IPv4
> addresses. It seems to me that it would be very difficult to exclude
> anybody from the category of "provider" (for the purpose of giving
> him or her addresses) who has even the flimsiest claim to being one.
>
> I think it's high time to start imposing (nominal) fees for the
> privelege of having network address assignments maintained. If this
> is done in any reasonable way, with full enough cooperation of
> everyone involved and prices that are not out of line with what people
> expect, it will work very well.
>
> Prices could be set to balance the expected aggregate routing load and
> the shortage of IPv4 addresses, and in ways that would promote
> sensible number allocation.
>
> Edward Vielmetti, vice president for research, Msen Inc. emv at Msen.com
> Msen Inc., 320 Miller, Ann Arbor MI 48103 +1 313 998 4562 (fax: 998 4563)
>
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