Vint Cerf Re: Backward Compatibility Re: IPv4 address block

Sat Jan 13 12:35:09 UTC 2024

Hi, Tom:

1)        " ...  Implying that Vint Cerf ever said anything about EzIP 
... ":

     FYI - Please see the below copy of a partial eMail thread. Bold, 
red colored and Italicized letters are to focus on the topic.

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InternetPolicy at eList.ISOC.orgeMail thread

On 2021-10-18 16:34, Abraham Y. Chen wrote:

Dear Vint:

Yes, this is one perspective for visualizing the EzIP proposal.

Thanks,

Abe (2021-10-18 16:33 EDT)

  Re: [Internet Policy] 202110180800.AYC Re: Platform self-regulation

  On 2021-10-18 10:39, */vinton cerf/* wrote:

sounds like /*eZIP*/is basically an */overlay/*network.

/*v*/

On Mon, Oct 18, 2021 at 8:33 AM Abraham Y. Chen via InternetPolicy 
<internetpolicy at elists.isoc.org> wrote:

Hi, Scott:

  0)    Thanks for your research.

  1)    Both SCION (based on my best understanding) and our work named 
EzIP (phonetic for Easy IPv4) are technical solutions for improving the 
Internet from its foundation level (the architecture). There are many 
implications with such schemes including social and legal if one looks 
into them.

  2)    As I responded to Gene's questions (See my eMail with subject 
line tag: "202110171756.AYC"), the SCION approach implements certain 
restrictions ......

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2)    Prior to the above, we were quite unsure about what our team was 
doing. So, I purposely avoided having any contact with Vint. We had been 
describing the EzIP's RANs (Regional Area Networks) as "kites floating 
in the air over an geographic area anchored by an IPv4 address based 
cord". Although visually clear, it was too wordy. By using one concise 
word, */overlay/*, Vint eloquently classified the EzIP network in 
terminology sense. It opened our eyes about what were the implications 
of EzIP and what could be the interactions with respect to the existing 
Internet, because EzIP was a non-interfering enhancement to an existing 
system which was a text book case of systems engineering.

Hope the above clears the air.

Regards,

Abe (2024-01-13 07:34)

On 2024-01-12 19:24, Tom Beecher wrote:

> I go into my cave to finish the todo list for the week, and I come out 
> to see Mr. Chen :
> - Telling Randy Bush he should "read some history" on IPv6
> - Implying that Vint Cerf ever said anything about EzIP
>
> Fairly impressive sequence of self ownage.
>
> On Fri, Jan 12, 2024 at 5:46 PM Randy Bush <randy at psg.com> wrote:
>

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