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<p><font size="4">Hi, Tom:</font></p>
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<p><font size="4">1) " ... Implying that Vint Cerf ever
said anything about EzIP ... ":</font></p>
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<p><font size="4"> FYI - Please see the below copy of a partial
eMail thread. Bold, red colored and Italicized letters are to
focus on the topic.<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="4"><a
href="mailto:InternetPolicy@eList.ISOC.org"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">InternetPolicy@eList.ISOC.org</a><span
style="mso-spacerun:yes"> </span>eMail thread</font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="4"> <span
style="mso-fareast-font-family:PMingLiU;mso-fareast-language:
ZH-TW">On 2021-10-18 16:34, Abraham Y. Chen wrote:</span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="4">Dear Vint:<span
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PMingLiU;mso-fareast-language:ZH-TW"></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="4"><span
style="mso-fareast-font-family:PMingLiU;mso-fareast-language:
ZH-TW"> </span>Yes, this is one perspective for visualizing the
EzIP proposal. <span
style="mso-fareast-font-family:PMingLiU;mso-fareast-language:
ZH-TW"></span></font></p>
<p><font size="4">Thanks,<span
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="4"><span
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ZH-TW"> </span>Abe (2021-10-18 16:33 EDT)<span
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="4"> Re: [Internet Policy]
202110180800.AYC Re: Platform
self-regulation</font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="4"> On 2021-10-18 10:39, <b
style="mso-bidi-font-weight:normal"><i
style="mso-bidi-font-style:normal"><span style="color:red">vinton
cerf</span></i></b>
wrote:</font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="4"><span style="color: black;">sounds
like </span><font color="#ff0000"><i><b>eZIP</b></i></font><span
style="color: black;">
is basically an </span><b
style="mso-bidi-font-weight:normal"><i
style="mso-bidi-font-style:normal"><span
style="color: red;">overlay</span></i></b><span
style="color: black;"> network.</span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="4"><span style="color: black;"> </span><font
color="#ff0000"><i><b>v</b></i></font></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="4"><span style="color: black;"> </span>On
Mon, Oct 18, 2021 at 8:33 AM Abraham Y. Chen via
InternetPolicy <<a
href="mailto:internetpolicy@elists.isoc.org"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">internetpolicy@elists.isoc.org</a>>
wrote:</font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="4">Hi, Scott:</font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="4"> 0) Thanks
for your research.</font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="4"> 1) Both
SCION (based on my best understanding) and our work named EzIP
(phonetic for
Easy IPv4) are technical solutions for improving the Internet
from its
foundation level (the architecture). There are many
implications with such
schemes including social and legal if one looks into them.</font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="4"> 2) As I responded to
Gene's
questions (See my eMail with subject line tag:
"202110171756.AYC"),
the SCION approach implements certain restrictions ......<br>
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<p><font size="4">2) Prior to the above, we were quite unsure
about what our team was doing. So, I purposely avoided having
any contact with Vint. We had been describing the EzIP's RANs
(Regional Area Networks) as "kites floating in the air over an
geographic area anchored by an IPv4 address based cord".
Although visually clear, it was too wordy. By using one
concise word, <font color="#ff0000"><b><i>overlay</i></b></font></font><font
size="4">, Vint eloquently classified the EzIP network in
terminology sense. It opened our eyes about what were the
implications of EzIP and what could be the interactions with
respect to the existing Internet, because EzIP was a
non-interfering enhancement to an existing system which was a
text book case of systems engineering.</font></p>
<p><font size="4">Hope the above clears the air.<br>
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<p><font size="4">Regards,</font></p>
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<p><font size="4">Abe (2024-01-13 07:34) <br>
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<p><font size="4">On 2024-01-12 19:24, Tom Beecher wrote:</font></p>
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<div dir="ltr">I go into my cave to finish the todo list for the
week, and I come out to see Mr. Chen :
<div>- Telling Randy Bush he should "read some history" on IPv6</div>
<div>- Implying that Vint Cerf ever said anything about EzIP</div>
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<div>Fairly impressive sequence of self ownage. </div>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Jan 12, 2024 at
5:46 PM Randy Bush <<a href="mailto:randy@psg.com"
moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">randy@psg.com</a>>
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