ARIN email address (was cogent spamming directly from ARIN records?)

Wed Oct 4 11:29:56 UTC 2023

This is not the outcome of internet ecosystem, this is outcome
of commercialization, where money is what is all cared, not good
product, ethical behavior, etc.

This is also because good guys do NOT fight back strong enough.
Cogent start to give you hard time? Start to filter they whole
prefixes? Maybe depeer them?

I know this sound extreme, but.. everything else seems to fail..

---------- Original message ----------

From: Christopher Morrow <morrowc.lists at gmail.com>
To: nanog at nanog.org
Subject: Re: ARIN email address (was cogent spamming directly from ARIN
    records?)
Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2023 15:48:11 -0400

i agree this is a sad outcome of the internet ecosystem.

> We keep discussing it because we care about keeping the internet
> running. It's similar to why we keep looking for new security holes in
> existing software: we don't stop because inevitably we'll find more so
> it's a lost cause, we keep looking because inevitably we'll find more
> so the product becomes more secure.

those are a bit of a false equivalence... but... ok.
I think: "Oh look, more spam, delete"
is basically how this sort of problem (email from randos trying to
sell me ED pills or 10Gs) should be treated.
I don't know that it's helpful to keep re-litigating that end state :(

I'm sure telling dave shaeffer: "Hey, your sales droids are being
rude" is going to end as well as sending him ED pill emails.