CPE/NID options

Mon Nov 27 14:41:04 UTC 2023

Around here, Spectrum uses an Adva for demarc and it can not do rfc2544
testing.  They will unplug the Adva and plug in the techs' mobile unit
(Viavi I think).  VZW/Tmo/Sprint/etc don't seem to mind.

On Mon, Nov 27, 2023 at 9:34 AM Ryan Hamel <ryan at rkhtech.org> wrote:

> The problem with using switches as a CPE device is the lack of RFC2544 (or
> equivalent) testing, and monitoring of the complete circuit with TWAMP.
> Both of which are used to ensure compliance with an SLA.
>
> Ryan Hamel
>
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> *To:* Christopher Hawker <chris at thesysadmin.au>
> *Cc:* North American Network Operators' Group <nanog at nanog.org>
> *Subject:* Re: CPE/NID options
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> When you say fiber, is it Ethernet?  If you just want layer 2 and a media
> converter, Mikrotik is a super good answer.
>
> On Thu, Nov 23, 2023 at 12:19 AM Christopher Hawker <chris at thesysadmin.au>
> wrote:
>
> Hi Ross,
>
> I've found these Mikrotik devices to be excellent and reliable:
>
> CRS310-8G+2S+IN: 8 x 2.5G copper ethernet ports, 2 x SFP+ cages,
> rack-mountable. Uses a single DC barrel-jack.
> https://mikrotik.com/product/crs310_8g_2s_in
> CRS305-1G-4S+IN: 4 x SFP+ cages, dual DC barrel-jack ports for redundant
> power, 1 x 1G copper ethernet port for OOB management.
> https://mikrotik.com/product/crs305_1g_4s_in
> CRS310-1G-5S-4S+OUT: 4 x SFP+ cages, 5 x SFP cages, 1 x 1G copper ethernet
> port for OOB management, can be mounted outdoors.
> https://mikrotik.com/product/netfiber_9
>
> MSRP on all three are at or below $249.00 so are priced quite reasonably.
> If you only need SFP+ cages I'd opt for the CRS305-1G-4S+IN.
>
> Regards,
> Christopher Hawker
>
>
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> *From:* NANOG <nanog-bounces+chris=thesysadmin.au at nanog.org> on behalf of
> Ross Tajvar <ross at tajvar.io>
> *Sent:* Thursday, November 23, 2023 3:41 PM
> *To:* North American Network Operators' Group <nanog at nanog.org>
> *Subject:* CPE/NID options
>
> I'm evaluating CPEs for one of my clients, a regional ISP. Currently,
> we're terminating the customer's service (L3) on our upstream equipment and
> extending it over our own fiber to the customer's premise, where it lands
> in a Juniper EX2200 or EX2300.
>
> At a previous job, I used Accedian's ANTs on the customer prem side. I
> like the ANT because it has a small footprint with only 2 ports, it's
> passively cooled, it's very simple to operate, it's controlled centrally,
> etc. Unfortunately, when I reached out to Accedian, they insisted that the
> controller (which is required) started at $30k, which is a non-starter for
> us.
>
> I'm not aware of any other products like this. Does anyone have a
> recommendation for a simple L2* device to deploy to customer premises? Not
> necessarily the exact same thing, but something similarly-featured would be
> ideal.
>
> *I'm not sure if the ANT is exactly "layer 2", but I don't know what else
> to call it.
>
>
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