Do ISP's collect and analyze traffic of users?

Tue May 16 18:54:45 UTC 2023

On 5/15/23 9:46 PM, Matthew Petach wrote:
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> On Mon, May 15, 2023 at 6:42 PM Dave Phelps <tippenring at gmail.com> wrote:
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>     I think it's safe to assume they are selling such data.
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>     https://www.techdirt.com/2021/08/25/isps-give-netflow-data-to-third-parties-who-sell-it-without-user-awareness-consent/
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>     https://www.vice.com/en/article/dy3z9a/fbi-bought-netflow-data-team-cymru-contract
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> From the second article:
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> "Team Cymru’s products can also include data such as URLs visited, 
> cookies, and PCAP data"
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> Really?  From Netflow?
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> I admit, I'm perhaps a little behind on the latest netflow whiz-bangs,
> but I've never seen a netflow record type that included HTTP cookies
> or PCAP data before.
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> Certainly, the products listed on the Team Cymru website don't make 
> any mention
> of including cookies or PCAP data, at least not from what I've been 
> able to
> ascertain from digging through their product listing.
>
> Is there some secret "off the menu" product that allows one to purchase a
> data feed that includes cookies and PCAP data?
>
Given the pervasiveness of TLS these days, even if they could get it off 
the remaining unencrypted data I'm not sure it would have a lot of value.

Mike
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