10G CPE w/VXLAN - vendors?

Thu Jun 15 08:16:02 UTC 2023

On 6/15/23 09:21, Ryan Hamel wrote:

> I would never let the customer manage the CPE device, unless it was 
> through some customer portal where automation can do checks and 
> balances, nor have the device participate in a ring topology -- home 
> runs or bust. If the device fails or has an issue requiring a field 
> dispatch, that is on the customer to help arrange that time and 
> provide on-site contact info, otherwise the SLA clock stops ticking.
>
> Now if the customer refuses to allow the vendor to pickup the CPE 
> (regardless of make/model) and/or building aggregation/demarc + UPS 
> hardware, the police can get called for theft of equipment depending 
> on its value, or customer/landlord is sued depending on what the 
> contract states.

Your network, your rules.

>
> As for Ciena's SAOS feature set, I was only going by the RFC's and 
> protocols listed on some of the higher end CPE equipment. I do not 
> have first hand experience with them.

They are hoping most customers buy based on what is listed, and not what 
is actually tested. Sadly, enough customers do that that it still makes 
sense for them to market that way.

 From operators in my circles that have deployed optical OEM gear for 
MPLS, those are rapidly being swapped out for more conventional OEM's.

>
> Tier 1's as in Cogent, Level3/Lumen, Zayo, etc.

Hehe... okay.

Doesn't matter the size of the operation, the options for boxes is still 
the same.

>
> Juniper's ACX7024 does look interesting as a building demarc/agg 
> device, but overkill for a single client CPE. It can't hold full 
> tables for transit handoffs, but the customer can establish multi-hop 
> BGP sessions upstream for that.

Like I said, if you are looking for a CPE to participate in your Metro-E 
backbone, and have all the features of a PE router, that is going to be 
a pretty hard combination to solve.

Mark.
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