Hawaiian ILEC infrastructure and fire

Thu Aug 17 17:56:51 UTC 2023

On 8/17/23 3:14 AM, Jason Kuehl wrote:
> I would be willing to travel down to help restore infra; I did this back 
> around Sandy as well. Is there anyone we can contact?

I am not sure who to contact.  I don't work with the fiber guys as I am 
a router guy.  I could only tell you to call the main number and work 
yourself to the fiber guys or look online and see who you can find that 
way.  But they have  lot of fiber up at this time.  They got guys from 
other islands over there last week and have been stringing fiber 
non-stop since then - over the weekend and nights.  Lahaina is small 
square area wise.  We already are getting Napili online today, which is 
north of the area affected.

scott

> On Wed, Aug 16, 2023 at 10:51 PM scott via NANOG <nanog at nanog.org 
> <mailto:nanog at nanog.org>> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>     On 8/17/23 2:03 AM, John Levine wrote:
>      > According to Eric Kuhnke <eric.kuhnke at gmail.com
>     <mailto:eric.kuhnke at gmail.com>>:
>      >> -=-=-=-=-=-
>      >>
>      >> It's my understanding that the Hawaiian ILEC is now owned by
>     Cincinnati
>      >> Bell, which is also a unique historical artifact, as it was its own
>      >> independent corporation/operating entity in the region of
>     Cincinnati during
>      >> the era of the pre-1984 Bell system.
>      >
>      > Not that unique, SNET was also a Bell affiliate in most of
>     Connecticut.
>      >
>      > Hawaiian Tel has a very painful history. It was independent until
>      > 1967, then bought by GTE, then merged into Verizon along with the
>     rest
>      > of GTE in 2000, then sold to a hedge fund in 2004 which knew nothing
>      > about telephony and ran it into bankruptcy, then an independent
>     public
>      > company from 2010 to 2017, when it was bought by Cincinnati Bell,
>      > which in turn was bought in 2021 by Australian conglomerate
>     Macquarie.
> 
>     Yep, that's it.  And the hedge fund (The Carlyle Group) thing was a
>     complete disaster.  I was here for all that.  Fugly is all I can say.
> 
> 
> 
>      > Running phone systems on islands is very expensive. There's only
>      > 160,000 people on Maui, about the same as Salinas CA, but separated
>      > from the rest of the world by a lot of water.
> 
>     We have a lot of undersea fiber and it is all connected into one big
>     MPLS network for the internet stuff.  There is still SS7 stuff out
>     there, too.  I am unfamiliar with that part.
> 
>     scott
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Sincerely,
> 
> Jason W Kuehl
> Cell 920-419-8983
> jason.w.kuehl at gmail.com <mailto:jason.w.kuehl at gmail.com>