Hawaiian ILEC infrastructure and fire

Thu Aug 17 03:14:31 UTC 2023

“Big, undersea, mpls network”.  Doesn’t get much cooler than that ;)

Aaron

> On Aug 16, 2023, at 9:51 PM, scott via NANOG <nanog at nanog.org> wrote:
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>> On 8/17/23 2:03 AM, John Levine wrote:
>> According to Eric Kuhnke <eric.kuhnke at gmail.com>:
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>>> It's my understanding that the Hawaiian ILEC is now owned by Cincinnati
>>> Bell, which is also a unique historical artifact, as it was its own
>>> independent corporation/operating entity in the region of Cincinnati during
>>> the era of the pre-1984 Bell system.
>> Not that unique, SNET was also a Bell affiliate in most of Connecticut.
>> Hawaiian Tel has a very painful history. It was independent until
>> 1967, then bought by GTE, then merged into Verizon along with the rest
>> of GTE in 2000, then sold to a hedge fund in 2004 which knew nothing
>> about telephony and ran it into bankruptcy, then an independent public
>> company from 2010 to 2017, when it was bought by Cincinnati Bell,
>> which in turn was bought in 2021 by Australian conglomerate Macquarie.
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> Yep, that's it.  And the hedge fund (The Carlyle Group) thing was a complete disaster.  I was here for all that.  Fugly is all I can say.
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>> Running phone systems on islands is very expensive. There's only
>> 160,000 people on Maui, about the same as Salinas CA, but separated
>> from the rest of the world by a lot of water.
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> We have a lot of undersea fiber and it is all connected into one big MPLS network for the internet stuff.  There is still SS7 stuff out there, too.  I am unfamiliar with that part.
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> scott