Verizon FiOS - is BGP an option?

Faisal Imtiaz faisal at snappydsl.net
Tue Mar 13 19:20:33 CDT 2012


So I have to ask you the big question...

Why do you want to do BGP with Comcast or Verizon ? (Over FIOS or Cable ?)

Is the intent to Peer with their network ? (which they will rightfully 
only allow on bigger fatter connections)..

or
Are you trying to delivery your IP's to a End Customer behind that FIOS 
/ Cable Connection ? ...
(there a ways to accomplish this without needing their cooperation..)


Faisal Imtiaz
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On 3/13/2012 8:06 PM, Christopher Morrow wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 6:26 PM, Justin M. Streiner
> <streiner at cluebyfour.org>  wrote:
>> All:
>>
>> I realize this might be a bit of a fool's errand, but I'm trying to
>> determine if Verizon will speak BGP with FiOS business customers.  Their
>> website is relatively lean on details.  Everything that mentions BGP points
>> to VZB services, which does not appear to include FiOS.  Looking at the
>> routing table, I do see several non-VZ ASNs downstream of AS19262, so it
>> looks like it might be possible.
>>
>> If that is the case, could anyone lend any insight to get past the "what is
>> BGP?" response that likely awaits from their salescritters?
> So.... techsupport folks aside.. the product they sell is:
>
>
> A) DHCP only, single address, dynamic
> B) Single Static address (uplift of 25$/month I believe?)
> C) 5 ips STATICALLY ROUTED AS /32's!! (WTF??) for 25$ above the
> option-B above/month.
>
> You can't bring your own space
> You can't do BGP
> You can get more than 5 ips (in 5 ip chunks I believe) for 25$/month
> per chunk...
>
> ip address rental, welcome to 1999!
>
> Also, I know that on 701 the rate of BGP to non-BGP customers was
> increasing and was at ~30% or so as of ~2007... You'd think that 19262
> would see that, see the business opportunity and offer it? Though, I
> suppose they DO see the business opportunity: "You want bgp? you want
> to bring your own ips? you want more than a DHCP address? Pay up, a
> lot."
>
> weee! fun times! At some point there was fairly serious talk of moving
> the FIOS product into the last-mile offering for 701 customers as
> well, guess that didn't happen? :( Seems, to me at least, like the PON
> technology would be a win/win for large ISP customers... easy upgrade
> paths (dial-on-demand-bandwidth almost?) and simple CPE deployments:
> "Ethernet? sure it's available!"
>
> -chris
>
>




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