spamhaus drop list

Peter Dambier peter at peter-dambier.de
Tue Jun 16 14:15:37 CDT 2009


Also I don't like those lists at all

http://www.heise.de/ix/nixspam/dnsbl_en/

Heise do print the very important magazines IX, CT and others in germany.
They depend on their emails coming through.

Kind regards
Peter


Quinn Mahoney wrote:
> Is there a competing droplist, that can be compared against Spamhaus's
> droplist?  That seems like an extraordinary claim, so I'm not satisfied
> with the evidence provided.  Is this not the best droplist?
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dean Anderson [mailto:dean at av8.com] 
> Sent: Monday, June 15, 2009 6:10 PM
> To: Quinn Mahoney
> Cc: nanog at nanog.org
> Subject: Re: spamhaus drop list
> 
> I suggest you avoid spamhaus, MAPS, and SORBS. They are really spammers
> in disguise, using blacklists to harm their competition while presumably
> letting their own spam through. We know they have used trust of the
> anti-spam community to list-wash spam-trap addresses.
> 
> See http://www.iadl.org/whitehat/whitehat-story.html add the IADL pages
> on Paul Vixie and MAPS.
> 
> You might also look at 
> http://www.av8.net/IETF-watch/People/JohnLevine/index.html
> Levine, long head of the Anti-spam Research Group, was also unmasked as
> a spammer.
> 
> Fred Baker <fred at cisco.com> is on the ISC Board of Trustees, and is a 
> Vixie supportor.
> 
> 
> 		--Dean
> 
> On Mon, 15 Jun 2009, Quinn Mahoney wrote:
> 
>> I'm looking to implement the Spamhaus drop list.
>> http://www.spamhaus.org/drop/index.lasso
>>
>>  
>>
>> On their FAQ they have a script that looks like it grabs the lists
> text
>> file and connects to a given router, and tells you what has changed in
>> the list, and what your router is null routing.  I'm not sure if it
> then
>> removes the null routes if a list entry has been removed.  I haven't
>> found much documentation on the net regarding this.  In the future it
>> looks like you will be able to peer with them and null route traffic
>> from a private AS, which will be routes from the drop list.  Right now
>> though, it looks like you'd have to update an ACL manually for any
>> changes to the list.  Or use this script which null routes the traffic
>> (I guess it's not a big deal getting the syn packets, as long as the
>> mail won't send because of the null route).  I am not sure if this
>> script updates the null routes automatically, or how to use it, I
> can't
>> find to much documentation. 
>>
>>  
>>
>> Any documentation on this script or another script available.  What
> are
>> your suggestions?
>>
>>  
>>
>> thanks
>>
>>  
>>
>>  
>>
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> 

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