<html><head></head><body><div dir="auto">It's easily fixed by having a mixer at the same time for the other half of the gathering population thus showing all the population gathering matters equally.<br><br></div><br><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="auto">On 29 March 2024 2:50:19 pm ACDT, Ren Provo <ren.provo@gmail.com> wrote:</div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
<div><div><span style="font-family:-apple-system,"helvetica neue";font-size:18px;font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:1px;text-decoration:none;float:none;display:inline!important;background-color:rgba(0,0,0,0);border-color:rgb(49,49,49);color:rgb(49,49,49)">I beg to differ here and second Ilissa’s comments. I miss WiT. Lunch during the meeting worked. Giving up more of the weekend to travel does not show half the population gathering matters.</span></div><br></div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Mar 28, 2024 at 15:16 Morris, Tina via NANOG <<a href="mailto:nanog@nanog.org">nanog@nanog.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204)">
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<div>The mixer is at 5pm Sunday, this allows people to network and prepare for the week. Sunday also has a hackathon, registration, and often a welcome social. NANOG has a very compressed schedule and another time would actually mean that the women participating
would have to pick between this event and another event or talk that may be critical to their job function, which is also unfair. </div>
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<div>We are advertising this mixer to make sure all are aware and can attend, and the mixers will be on the schedule at the same approximate time at each meeting going forward.</div>
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<div>I hope we will see you there. </div>
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<div dir="ltr">> While the times are changing, women continue to remain primary caregivers for families and this will require them to desert their families a day early. I find it offensive personally and feel like you may have missed the mark.
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<div dir="ltr">The hackathon has for (as far as I’ve known about it) been on Sunday. I don’t work on Sundays - it’s a day for my family (unless the almighty pager goes off), so I’ve never gone - even though it’s one of the parts of NANOG I’d enjoy, and would
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<div dir="ltr">There are tradeoffs for everything - perhaps the idea was to keep the women’s mixer separate from the other evening events, so that those who wish to participate, can do all of the evening events, and not have to give up anything, at the cost
of the extra day. That being said, I agree, moving more to Sunday is not an acceptable answer to me. </div>
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For those that know me, I rarely provide constructive input about NANOG matters due to my past affiliation, however, I just saw that NANOG announced the Women mixer on Sunday before NANOG 91 and am outraged for all of the young professional women
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<div dir="ltr"></div></blockquote></div></div></div></blockquote></div></div><div dir="auto"><div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><div><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204)" type="cite"><div dir="ltr">For those that know me, I rarely provide constructive input about NANOG matters due to my past affiliation, however, I just saw that NANOG announced the Women mixer on Sunday before NANOG 91 and am outraged for all of the young professional women
who would like to participate in NANOG. While the times are changing, women continue to remain primary caregivers for families and this will require them to desert their families a day early. I find it offensive personally and feel like you may have missed
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<div>The amount of times I hear people complain about having to leave their families is one of the reasons this industry has a problem keeping young people - especially women.</div>
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