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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Aptos",sans-serif">I’ll throw another in the hat for SmartOptics… great products and support. We have a good deal of their stuff for local regional deployments and it’s super reliable, even at over 100km on a mediocre
dark fiber span.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> NANOG <nanog-bounces+tim=mid.net@nanog.org> <b>
On Behalf Of </b>Joe Freeman<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, October 6, 2023 9:01 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Dave Bell <me@geordish.org>; Mark Tinka <mark@tinka.africa><br>
<b>Cc:</b> nanog@nanog.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: Low to Mid Range DWDM Platforms<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">I have several of the Smart Optics DCP-M40’s in place. If you are using coherent 100G DWDM optics, you can push the M40-ZR’s to 100-120km. The exact reach depends, of course, on the quality
of the fiber plant in use.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">From:
</span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">NANOG <<a href="mailto:nanog-bounces+joe=netbyjoe.com@nanog.org">nanog-bounces+joe=netbyjoe.com@nanog.org</a>> on behalf of Dave Bell <<a href="mailto:me@geordish.org">me@geordish.org</a>><br>
<b>Date: </b>Friday, October 6, 2023 at 9:54 AM<br>
<b>To: </b>Mark Tinka <<a href="mailto:mark@tinka.africa">mark@tinka.africa</a>><br>
<b>Cc: </b><a href="mailto:nanog@nanog.org">nanog@nanog.org</a> <<a href="mailto:nanog@nanog.org">nanog@nanog.org</a>><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: Low to Mid Range DWDM Platforms<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Smartoptics?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><a href="https://smartoptics.com/">https://smartoptics.com/</a><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Regards,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Fri, 6 Oct 2023 at 14:43, Mark Tinka <<a href="mailto:mark@tinka.africa">mark@tinka.africa</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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On 10/6/23 15:07, Mike Hammett wrote:<br>
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> I've been using various forms of passive WDM for years. I have a couple different projects on my plate that require me to look at the next level of platform.<br>
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> In some projects, I'll be looking for needing to have someone long distances of glass without any electronics. Some spans could be over 60 miles.<br>
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> In some projects, I'll need to transport multiple 100-gig waves.<br>
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> What is the landscape like between basic passive and something like a 30 terabit Ciena? I know of multiple vendors in that space, but I like to learn more about what features I need and what features I don't need from somewhere other than the vendor's mouth.
Obviously, the most reliability at the least cost as well.<br>
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400G-ZR pluggables will get you 400Gbps on a p2p dark fibre over 80km - <br>
100km. So your main cost there will be routers that will support.<br>
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The smallest DCI solution from the leading DWDM vendors is likely to be <br>
your cheapest option. Alternatively, if you are willing to look at the <br>
open market, you can find gear based on older CMOS (40nm, for example), <br>
which will now be EoL for any large scale optical network, but cost next <br>
to nothing for a start-up with considerable capacity value.<br>
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There is a DWDM vendor that showed up on the scene back in 2008 or <br>
thereabouts. They were selling a very cheap, 1U box that had a different <br>
approach to DWDM from other vendors at the time. I, for the life of me, <br>
cannot remember their name - but I do know that Randy introduced them to <br>
me back then. Maybe he can remember :-). Not sure if they are still in <br>
business.<br>
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Mark.<o:p></o:p></p>
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