<html><head><style type='text/css'>p { margin: 0; }</style></head><body><div style='font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt; color: #000000'>"they have just recently within the past 12 months started putting it into more widespread use"<div><br></div><div>That's a pretty good definition of new.<br><br><div><span name="x"></span><br style="color:rgb( 0 , 0 , 0 );font-family:'times new roman';font-size:medium;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px"><br style="color:rgb( 0 , 0 , 0 );font-family:'times new roman';font-size:medium;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px"><span style="color:rgb( 0 , 0 , 0 );font-family:'times new 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wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div class="msg6556539434835574742"><div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:10pt;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><span style="font-size:10pt">Here's their new stuff:</span></font><br><br><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><span style="font-size:13.3333px"><a href="https://bgp.he.net/AS14593" target="_blank">https://bgp.he.net/AS14593</a></span></font><br><br><div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:10pt"><span></span><br style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:"times new roman";font-size:medium;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px"><br style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:"times new 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10:23:15 AM<br><b>Subject: </b>Re: starlink downlink/internet access<br><br><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr">Starlink has nothing to do with Google Fiber. It used to use Google Cloud for routing (BYOIP) in the early days but I am sure this has changed.<br><br>Eric</div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Jan 11, 2023 at 9:51 AM Tom Beecher <<a href="mailto:beecher@beecher.cc" target="_blank">beecher@beecher.cc</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">I can say with certainty at least one downlink location is not using Google Fiber, as I am sitting about 1/2 mile from it , and have firsthand knowledge of all glass in the ground around here. </div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Jan 11, 2023 at 12:14 AM Dave Taht <<a href="mailto:dave.taht@gmail.com" target="_blank">dave.taht@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">I maintain an email list for issues specific to starlink here:<br>
<a href="https://lists.bufferbloat.net" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://lists.bufferbloat.net</a> which has multiple experts on it. There<br>
are also quite a few folk on twitter covering what's going on there.<br>
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The latest information I had was that they'd started off hooked up to<br>
google's stuff but have been building out their own network wherever<br>
they can.<br>
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On Tue, Jan 10, 2023 at 8:50 PM Ong Beng Hui <<a href="mailto:ongbh@ispworkshop.com" target="_blank">ongbh@ispworkshop.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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> Hi folks,<br>
><br>
> Anyone know/advise if Starlink internet downlink is in US Google fiber ?<br>
> I thought I saw a message before that Starlink was using Google fiber.<br>
><br>
> I was referring to the actual internet transit, not the Satellite<br>
> downlink station.<br>
><br>
> Please advise.<br>
><br>
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This song goes out to all the folk that thought Stadia would work:<br>
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