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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix"><font size="4">Dear Noah:</font></div>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix"><font size="4">0)  "Iterations often
        times leads back to the beginning.": Thanks for distilling this
        thread to a concise principle. Perhaps your name was given with
        the foresight of this discussion? 😉</font></div>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix"><font size="4">1)  As a newcomer to the
        arena, I have always been perplexed by the apparent collective
        NIH (Not Invented Here) syndrome of the Internet community.
        While promoting openness, everything seems to go with "my way or
        noway". Of course, each Internet practice or convention was
        determined by some sort of consensus by majority opinion.
        However, once it gets going, it appears to be cast in concrete.
        There is a huge inertia against considering alternatives or
        improvements. Some of them even appear to be volunteered
        "policing" without full understanding of the background. Just
        like how practically all democratic governments are facing these
        days, a well-intended crowd can be led by an influencer to
        derail a social normality. It does not seem to me that strictly
        adhering to "one person one vote" rule can guide us toward a
        productive future. <br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix"><font size="4">2)  To follow what you
        are saying, I wonder how could we think "out of the box" or go
        "back to the future", before it is too late for our world wide
        communications infrastructure to serve as a reliable daily tool
        without being a distraction constantly? That is, four decades
        should be long enough for our Internet experiments to be
        reviewed, so that we can try navigating out of the current
        chaos, or start with an alternative.</font></div>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix"><font size="4">Regards,</font></div>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix"><font size="4">Abe (2022-10-30 18:41
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix"><font size="4">On 2022-10-30 12:47,
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            <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, 17 Oct 2022, 00:18
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        <div dir="auto">Ack....</div>
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              .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> I
              thought of it in a slightly<br>
              different way--like a space that we were exploring and, in
              the early days,<br>
              we figured out this consistent path through the space: IP,
              TCP, and so on.<br>
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        <div dir="auto">the impact of IP, TCP in improving human life
          across the globe in the last decades can not be overstated.</div>
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        <div dir="auto">Human enginuity through names like Google have
          enabled the age of information and access to information
          through addresses and digital trade routes have continued to
          ensure peace for humanity on the positive side of the
          communications spectrum.</div>
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              .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> What's
              been happening over the last few years is that the IETF is
              filling<br>
              the rest of the space with every alternative approach, not
              necessarily any<br>
              better.  Every possible alternative is now being written
              down.  And it's not<br>
              useful.  -- Jon Postel<br>
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        <div dir="auto">I suppose original human ideas and thoughts
          tends to stand the taste of time.</div>
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        <div dir="auto">Iterations often times leads back to the
          beginning.</div>
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