<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><div class="">Bill,</div><div class=""><br class=""></div>Not only that, did they even follow their own rules, I’ve been fighting with <a href="http://septa.org" class="">septa.org</a>, the Pennsylvania train authority, and <a href="http://easypassnj.com" class="">easypassnj.com</a>, the New Jersey transit toll collectors about invalid SPF records for years, and they literally don’t give a shit.  If they say to put it in spam, well than that is their own fault.<div class=""><div class=""><br class=""><div class="">
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<div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Aug 23, 2022, at 10:00 PM, Suresh Ramasubramanian <<a href="mailto:ops.lists@gmail.com" class="">ops.lists@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class="">

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<div dir="ltr" class="">Without saying why the mail was blocked (dumb content filter looking for porn? a spamhaus listing because the police server was hacked? something else?) that’s not going to help too much.</div>
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<div dir="ltr" class="">I’ve been spam filtering stuff at large providers since the late 90s and it never gets any easier to block 100% spam or let 100% legit mail through.</div>
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<div id="divRplyFwdMsg" dir="ltr" class=""><font face="Calibri, sans-serif" style="font-size:11pt" class=""><b class="">From:</b> NANOG <<a href="mailto:nanog-bounces+ops.lists=gmail.com@nanog.org" class="">nanog-bounces+ops.lists=gmail.com@nanog.org</a>> on behalf of William Herrin <<a href="mailto:bill@herrin.us" class="">bill@herrin.us</a>><br class="">
<b class="">Sent:</b> Wednesday, August 24, 2022 7:03:52 AM<br class="">
<b class="">To:</b> <a href="mailto:nanog@nanog.org" class="">nanog@nanog.org</a> <<a href="mailto:nanog@nanog.org" class="">nanog@nanog.org</a>><br class="">
<b class="">Subject:</b> email spam</font>
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<div class="PlainText">Hello,<br class="">
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To folks at places like Google and Godaddy which have gotten, shall we<br class="">
say, overzealous about preventing spam from entering their systems,<br class="">
consider the risk:<br class="">
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<a href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/education/2022/08/23/fairfax-county-counselor-solicitation-minor/" class="">https://www.washingtonpost.com/education/2022/08/23/fairfax-county-counselor-solicitation-minor/</a><br class="">
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"Chesterfield County police said emails notifying Fairfax County<br class="">
Public Schools that an employee was arrested and charged with<br class="">
soliciting prostitution from a minor were not delivered to the school<br class="">
system."<br class="">
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Long story short, the pedo kept his school job another year and a half.<br class="">
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There was once a time when both the outbound emails and the bounce<br class="">
messages when they failed... worked. It was a spammy place but the<br class="">
important emails got through.<br class="">
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Regards,<br class="">
Bill Herrin<br class="">
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