<div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Aug 15, 2022 at 8:22 AM VOLKAN KIRIK <<a href="mailto:volkirik@gmail.com">volkirik@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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<p>the lesson of (/for) the <a href="http://he.net" target="_blank">he.net</a></p>
<p>kolayın tuzağına düşme</p>
<p>do not fall into trap of the easy way.</p>
<p>now tier1 league of them will take like forever for never<br></p></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>I would suggest this is more aptly a case of the Latin phrase</div><div>"caveat emptor"</div><div><br></div><div>What Cogent or Hurricane chooses to do or not do with their </div><div>respective networks is their business (quite literally).</div><div><br></div><div>What matters is what *you* choose to do as a customer; </div><div>and that is why the Latin phrase is so relevant to your</div><div>situation: "Let the buyer beware."</div><div><br></div><div>Knowing now as you do that neither network will give </div><div>you a "complete" view of the Internet, when it comes </div><div>time to renew contracts, it would seem to be wise for </div><div>you to select a set of upstream providers that will better </div><div>suit your needs. Using Cogent or HE as one of your </div><div>transit providers, along with a less contentious network </div><div>will help ensure you have broader coverage for what the </div><div>rest of the world considers to be the 'entire' internet.</div><div><br></div><div>Putting all of your eggs in either the Cogent or HE baskets </div><div>at this stage of the game, however, is likely to lead to some </div><div>amount of heartache and pain.</div><div><br></div><div>In the immortal words of the Knight Templar guarding the </div><div>chalice:</div><div><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ubw5N8iVDHI">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ubw5N8iVDHI</a><br></div><div><br></div><div>"He chose...poorly." </div><div><br></div><div>The reason you're not getting a great deal of sympathy or </div><div>support here, no matter how many times you grumble about </div><div>it, is that this is a known conflict, it's been in existence for as </div><div>long as some of the people on this list have been working in </div><div>the industry, and everyone else has simply shrugged their</div><div>shoulders, learned to do more background research before</div><div>signing a long-term contract, and moved on with their </div><div>businesses.</div><div><br></div><div>The only thing that is likely to break the stalemate at this </div><div>point is voting with your money. Take your business elsewhere, </div><div>until one side or the other decides getting customer revenue is </div><div>more important than a silly entry on a Wikipedia page. Or, if you </div><div>have the resources, become a majority shareholder in one or the </div><div>the company, and force the management team to change its </div><div>position on the matter. Given that only one of the two companies </div><div>is publicly held, I suspect it should be clearly evident which company </div><div>would be the best focus of your energy and money, should you choose </div><div>to go in that direction.</div><div><br></div><div>If nothing else, please do recognize that no amount of grumbling </div><div>here on NANOG is going to have one whit of impact on the position</div><div>of either company. ^_^;</div><div><br></div><div>Best of luck!</div><div><br></div><div>Matt</div><div><br></div></div></div>