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<p>the more uploading side pays each month for the excess amount.</p>
<p>as content networks are supposed to pay expenses.</p>
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<p>what do you think?</p>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">19.08.2022 18:28 tarihinde Mike Hammett
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10pt; color: #000000">The problem them becomes *who* pays? When
do the tables turn as to who pays?
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<div>The alpha gets paid and the beta does the paying?</div>
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<div>The network with more POPs gets paid?<br>
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The network with more downstream ASes gets paid?</div>
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<div>Is it the same for IPv4 as it is for IPv6?<br>
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</b>"VOLKAN KIRIK" <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:volkirik@gmail.com"><volkirik@gmail.com></a><br>
<b>To: </b>"Rubens Kuhl" <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:rubensk@gmail.com"><rubensk@gmail.com></a><br>
<b>Cc: </b><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:nanog@nanog.org">nanog@nanog.org</a>, <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:dschaeffer@cogentco.com">dschaeffer@cogentco.com</a>,
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:peering@cogentco.com">peering@cogentco.com</a><br>
<b>Sent: </b>Friday, August 19, 2022 10:22:00 AM<br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: cogent and henet not peering<br>
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<p>this is 50/50 situation. nobody has to peer for free.</p>
<p>but everyone can.</p>
<p>lets just say above 1:1 ratio he.net pays their own ip
transit price to cogent for paid peering excess amount and
both sides monitor traffic</p>
<p>we can solve this issue by becoming middlemen
worldwide...</p>
<p>both operators are cheap and they could all compete in
quality.</p>
<p>level3 pays comcast reasonable (cheap) price (under NDA
maybe?). why wouldnt mleber?</p>
<p>but to make it fair, as he.net becomes ww tier-1 operator
day-by-day, lets just limit pricing to excess amount of
traffic</p>
<p>thanks for reading</p>
<p>would appreciate your support</p>
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<pre class="moz-quote-pre">OTOH, knowing that Cogent loves splitting the global Internet is one
good reason to not contract their services.
I think they sell traffic to their private Intranet. Which is huge,
but doesn't encompass the whole Internet.
Rubens
On Fri, Aug 19, 2022 at 12:04 PM VOLKAN KIRIK <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:volkirik@gmail.com" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><volkirik@gmail.com></a> wrote:
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<pre class="moz-quote-pre">lets just say cogent gives 400GE in each pop they have in common with he.net for free.
BUT they will rate-limit he.net links to previous month's 95th percentile upload or download (which is minimum) rate (each month)
to make ratio 1:1... to make downstream and upstream traffics fair...
okay?
fine?
come on people,
segmentation is bad.
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