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<p>the companies are here to trade, charge prices for their
services.... so why blame cogent for doing what they supposed to
be doing?<br>
</p>
<p> why did hurricane stop BGP tunnel service? and started asking
for 500 usd/month for peering? expense of BGP servers? or did they
realize ipv6 prefixes does not cost MRC, so their network peers
are not serious business.<br>
</p>
<p>why did Google start charging for cloud gigabytes?</p>
<p>if he.net opens free BGP tunnel service back; and also announce
full transit routes on IXPs, thats just zero (payback)...</p>
<p>if they provide free ip transit to everyone; I would think that
cogent should provide free network access to them...</p>
<p>if google doesnt charge for traffic in cloud services, then they
will be largest in my eyes.<br>
</p>
<p>if cogent asks for a price, then they have to pay (to become
tier1)... simple as that. or they could stay as tier-2 as long as
they want. thats called free as in freedom. not as in price.</p>
<p><b>doesnt level3 pay comcast money for paid-peering?</b><br>
</p>
<p>building eyeball network, enabling fiber connectivity in
buildings has much more meaning to me... <br>
</p>
<p>so honestly i am fine with segmented ipv6 internet. i would just
not prefer he.net in my IP transit blend, as i do not have to
respect crying beggars.... and i could choose telia+cogent.</p>
<p>he.net guys are just charging you money for dumping your traffic
in IX Points, that you can do yourself, be eyeball or content
network..<br>
</p>
<p>btw, losts of useless prefixes... think an asn has 1000 ipv6
prefixes but less than 1 ge traffic, while there are networks
exceeding 10ge with just one prefix. ipv6 nat is spreading. just
like ipv4 nat.</p>
<p>could you analyze traffic amount of ASNs? no. then dont fuckin
call them largest or i will kick your monkey ass.</p>
<p>i am the god!</p>
<p><br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">11.08.2022 17:01 tarihinde August Yang
yazdı:<br>
</div>
<blockquote type="cite"
cite="mid:0a020bf29f9066bc097d248e70438477@august.tw">Think twice
before asking the largest global IPv6 network as measured by
prefixes announced to pay Cogent for peering.
<br>
<br>
Also what’s with Telia here?
<br>
<br>
Best regards
<br>
August Yang
<br>
<br>
On 2022-08-11 09:46, VOLKAN KIRIK wrote:
<br>
<blockquote type="cite">hello
<br>
<br>
nobody has to peer with some operator for free. they are simply
<br>
trading internet services. they do not have to believe in FREE
(as in
<br>
price) internet connectivity.. if they peered you, you would
decrease
<br>
the price of the products even more and more...
<br>
<br>
ask cogentco (as174) for paid peering. they will give you nice
paid
<br>
peering or ip transit offer that you can use for both ipv4 and
ipv6.
<br>
<br>
for example i would assume they would be OK charging he.net
(as6939) 5
<br>
usd cent per megabit.
<br>
<br>
you need to understand that you are never going to become tier1
<br>
without support from as174. they are currently cheapest and they
are
<br>
okay with dual homing too. think like united nations security
council.
<br>
<br>
you must think twice; are you gaining any profit by segmenting
<br>
world-wide internet? or are you loosing prospective
single-homing
<br>
customers because you lack connectivity to as174 clients?
<br>
<br>
we must think big. asking for a money is OKay while begging for
FREE
<br>
service is not... operating NOC and backbone has some expenses
that
<br>
henet wouldnt understand with their rented links. cogentco bear
much
<br>
more expenses than henet
<br>
<br>
i am not here to insult henet but i honestly think that they are
<br>
contemptible... just like google's peering decision makers.
<br>
<br>
sir! if you have become big content/eyeball operator, doesnt
mean that
<br>
every operator in the industry have to respect your tier-1
policy and
<br>
give you their services for free. thats the thing henet and
google
<br>
couldnt understand. think like UNSC and you will understand
<br>
<br>
even USA can not do anything they want in the world, as RU has
voting
<br>
right, too.
<br>
<br>
TL;DR; instead of crying here and begging for free service. send
real
<br>
representatives that could negotiate the money you would pay.
<br>
<br>
bye
<br>
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