<div dir="ltr">Hi Tom and Oskar,<div><br></div><div>Thanks for surfacing this. We are indeed continuing to pause IX peering as we work to implement IRR filtering on our peering to increase the reliability of Google. This is a very active area of development and a high priority for Google. As we understand that this has been the case for quite some time, we hope to share an update with the community in the future.</div><div><br></div><div>Meanwhile if you have questions on Google's IRR based filtering we have some information on our help center: <a href="https://support.google.com/interconnect/answer/9368848?hl=en&ref_topic=9326690">https://support.google.com/interconnect/answer/9368848?hl=en&ref_topic=9326690</a></div><div><br></div><div>Thanks,</div><div>Dave<br clear="all"><div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><table style="color:rgb(80,0,80);border:none;border-collapse:collapse"><colgroup><col width="487"></colgroup><tbody><tr style="height:0pt"><td style="vertical-align:middle;overflow:hidden"><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial;background-color:transparent;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap"><font color="#666666"><b><br></b></font></span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial;background-color:transparent;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap"><font color="#666666"><b><br></b></font></span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial;background-color:transparent;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap"><font color="#666666"><b>--</b></font></span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial;background-color:transparent;font-weight:700;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap"><font color="#666666"><br></font></span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial;background-color:transparent;font-weight:700;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap"><font color="#666666">Dave Schwartz</font></span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial;background-color:transparent;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap"><font color="#666666">Product Manager</font></span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="color:rgb(102,102,102);background-color:transparent;font-family:Arial;font-size:10pt;white-space:pre-wrap">Google Global Networking</span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><font face="Arial"><span style="font-size:13.3333px;white-space:pre-wrap"><a href="mailto:daveschwartz@google.com" style="color:rgb(17,85,204)" target="_blank">daveschwartz@google.com</a></span></font></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="color:rgb(102,102,102);font-family:Arial;font-size:13.3333px;white-space:pre-wrap"><a href="tel:(310)%20779-4071" value="+13107794071" style="color:rgb(17,85,204)" target="_blank">+1-310-779-4071</a></span></p></td></tr></tbody></table></div></div></div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, 11 Aug 2022 at 09:18, Tom Krenn via NANOG <<a href="mailto:nanog@nanog.org">nanog@nanog.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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<p class="MsoNormal">Hi Oskar,<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I’m in the exact same boat as you. To help clarify for the list.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">When following the process for Google outlined at <a href="https://peering.google.com/#/options/peering" target="_blank">https://peering.google.com/#/options/peering</a> we only receive a message stating:
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:0.5in"><i>“</i><i>Thank you for requesting Internet Exchange (IX) peering with Google.<br>
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IX Peering requests are currently paused as we improve our automation systems to incorporate Internet Route Registry (IRR) based filtering into all IX BGP sessions.<br>
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During this time Google prefixes remains reachable on route servers at IXes which we are connected to. For a complete list of our global IX presence please visit our PeeringDB entry at
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https://www.peeringdb.com/asn/15169</a><br>
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While we undergo our system improvements we request that you update your IRR entries to ensure your prefixes will be accepted by our filters.”<u></u><u></u></i></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I think the question for the list is: Does anyone know when Google will start processing these requests again? It has been a very long time.
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<p class="MsoNormal">As for Microsoft, their process does seem to be very slow via the Azure portal.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> NANOG <nanog-bounces+tom.krenn=<a href="mailto:hennepin.us@nanog.org" target="_blank">hennepin.us@nanog.org</a>>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Oskar Borgqvist<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, August 10, 2022 6:29 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:nanog@nanog.org" target="_blank">nanog@nanog.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [External] Peering with Google and Microsoft<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Hi Nanog<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">We have tried to get peering with Google but only get answers that they are making their peering system better. I have received this answer for over 1 year.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">The reason why we needed peering to Google is that they do not send out exact prefixes over IXP RS, which means that our traffic from Sweden down to Germany and up again to Sweden again.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">This has created a bit of a problem for us.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">If anyone could help us with this it would be appreciated. Or can give an explanation.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Since then, we have also tried to get peering with Microsoft without success. We have tried to contact them via their peering email without success. Would appreciate help here as well.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Sincerely,<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Oskar Borgqvist <u></u><u></u></p>
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