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Seeing the little of that thread.<br>
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I never understood why someone thinks their experience with
Level 1 thru 3 staff reflect the actual situation.<br>
<br>
That was clearly an issue with network engineering and their
processes. Because a 14h downtime for, as Rogers says, "a specific
equipment" is too big of a spin.<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 7/9/22 21:18, Victor Kuarsingh
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<div>We should move on and focus on constructive comments vs.
kicking an operator when they are down. </div>
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<div>That said, demeaning comments, no matter what they are or
whom they are targeted at, is not healthy and is not
helpful. </div>
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<div>regards,</div>
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PM L F <<a href="mailto:liz.fazekas@gmail.com"
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<div dir="auto">Lest we ALL MOVE ON….</div>
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<div dir="auto">Yes he said</div>
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<div dir="auto">“RETARD” = </div>
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<div dir="auto">The delay in processing the current status
of a Situation…</div>
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<div dir="auto">Lets move on to bigger n scarier Post
mortems:</div>
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<div dir="auto">Was This or Was this NOT</div>
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<div dir="auto">A CYBERATTACK ??? </div>
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<div dir="auto">Done.</div>
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<div dir="auto">Lets deal with REAL threats not PC
references.</div>
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<div dir="auto">Time to evaluate n re eval Our NTS!!</div>
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<div dir="auto">Veni vidi vici 2022</div>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sat, Jul 9, 2022 at
5:01 PM Eric Kuhnke <<a
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<div>Can we have a discussion with the list admins
about a list member appending a threat of
violence to their outbound emails? Whether
serious or not. <br>
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<div>Does this person need directions to some
local mental healthcare resources?</div>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sat, 9 Jul
2022 at 08:48, Keith Medcalf <<a
href="mailto:kmedcalf@dessus.com"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">kmedcalf@dessus.com</a>>
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>I can't either, but the reality right now
seems to be that 911 calls are<br>
>failing for anyone on a Rogers cellphone.<br>
<br>
This is par for the course. These people chose
to deal with Rogers despite knowing the
consequences. It is like if you bought a Rogers
Snowblower and it did not work. That would mean
that people who bought the Rogers Snowblower
will not be using it to get rid of the snow that
is preventing them from leaving their house.<br>
<br>
Mutatis mutandis when Rogers is down things that
are Rogers dependent will not work.<br>
<br>
Some people are so retarded it is astonishing!<br>
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>-----Original Message-----<br>
>From: NANOG <nanog-bounces+kmedcalf=<a
href="mailto:dessus.com@nanog.org"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">dessus.com@nanog.org</a>>
On Behalf Of<br>
>Eric Kuhnke<br>
>Sent: Friday, 8 July, 2022 13:34<br>
>To: jim deleskie <<a
href="mailto:deleskie@gmail.com"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">deleskie@gmail.com</a>><br>
>Cc: NANOG list <<a
href="mailto:nanog@nanog.org" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">nanog@nanog.org</a>><br>
>Subject: Re: Rogers Outage Canada<br>
><br>
><br>
>I have seen anecdotal reports that the
mobile network is in a half broken<br>
>state that phones remain registered to, so a
911 call will attempt and<br>
>then fail.<br>
><br>
><br>
>This is unlike what would happen if you had
a US/Canada cellphone with<br>
>battery power but no SIM card in it that
would search for any available<br>
>network in RF range for a 911 call if
needed.<br>
><br>
><br>
>On Fri, 8 Jul 2022 at 12:31, jim deleskie
<<a href="mailto:deleskie@gmail.com"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">deleskie@gmail.com</a><br>
><mailto:<a
href="mailto:deleskie@gmail.com"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">deleskie@gmail.com</a>>
> wrote:<br>
><br>
><br>
> i cant see BGP taking out SS7.<br>
><br>
> -jim<br>
><br>
> On Fri, Jul 8, 2022 at 2:45 PM
Snowmobile2004<br>
><<a href="mailto:greenjosh6499@gmail.com"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">greenjosh6499@gmail.com</a>
<mailto:<a
href="mailto:greenjosh6499@gmail.com"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">greenjosh6499@gmail.com</a>>
> wrote:<br>
><br>
><br>
> According to Cloudflare Radar<br>
><<a
href="https://radar.cloudflare.com/asn/812?date_filter=last_24_hours"
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://radar.cloudflare.com/asn/812?date_filter=last_24_hours</a>>
, Rogers<br>
>BGP announcements spiked massively to levels
536,777% higher than normal<br>
>(343,601 vs 64 normally) just minutes before
the outage. I would not be<br>
>surprised if this happened to be the
culprit.<br>
><br>
> Regards,<br>
> Josh Green<br>
><br>
> On Fri, Jul 8, 2022 at 2:19
PM Andrew Paolucci via NANOG<br>
><<a href="mailto:nanog@nanog.org"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">nanog@nanog.org</a>
<mailto:<a href="mailto:nanog@nanog.org"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">nanog@nanog.org</a>>
> wrote:<br>
><br>
><br>
> In the early hours of
the morning around 2-3am my modem<br>
>got hit with a configuration update that
caused a DHCP release that<br>
>wasn't renewed for about two hours, after
rollback the connection was<br>
>fine for 3 hours before this network wide
outage.<br>
><br>
><br>
> Maybe a failed night
time update was attempted again<br>
>during office hours, I've heard daytime guys
are still WFH and night<br>
>shift is in building.<br>
><br>
><br>
> I expect we'll never
get a real explanation. Rogers is<br>
>notorious for withholding any type of
helpful or technical information.<br>
><br>
><br>
> Sent from my
inoperable Rogers Mobile via emergency eSIM.<br>
><br>
><br>
> Regards,<br>
><br>
> Andrew Paolucci<br>
> -------- Original
Message --------<br>
> On Jul. 8, 2022, 1:48
p.m., Jay Hennigan < <a
href="mailto:jay@west.net" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">jay@west.net</a><br>
><mailto:<a href="mailto:jay@west.net"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">jay@west.net</a>>
> wrote:<br>
><br>
><br>
> On 7/8/22
07:44, Robert DeVita wrote: > Does anyone<br>
>have information on a widespread Rogers
outage in Canada. I > have<br>
>customers with multiple sites down. There's
discussion on the Outages<br>
>mailing list. Seems widespread, affecting
all services, mobile, voice,<br>
>Internet. No cause or ETR posted yet. -- Jay
Hennigan - <a href="mailto:jay@west.net"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">jay@west.net</a><br>
><mailto:<a href="mailto:jay@west.net"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">jay@west.net</a>>
Network Engineering - CCIE #7880 503 897-8550 -<br>
>WB6RDV<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> --<br>
><br>
> Josh Green.<br>
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