<div dir="auto">A decade ago I recall Globalstar, yet another LEO phone service, had been trying to work out a partnership with a terrestrial carrier that could use their spectrum allotment. It was purely a business move. Nothing technical about it. Spectrum is valuable, and they were trying to find a way to monetize it while still staying in the rules, or at least a plausible argument that they were following the rules.</div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Jun 24, 2022 at 1:23 PM Mike Hammett <<a href="mailto:nanog@ics-il.net">nanog@ics-il.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204)"><div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:10pt;color:rgb(0,0,0)">It's DirecTV that became part of AT&T, but now they're separated again.<br><br>Dish Network is building a nation-wide terrestrial <span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">mobile network. Supposed to be the new #4 provider.</span><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><span name="x" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"></span><br style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:'times new roman';font-size:medium;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px"><br style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:'times new roman';font-size:medium;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px"><span style="font-family:"times new roman";font-size:medium;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;float:none;display:inline!important;color:rgb(0,0,0)">-----</span><br style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:'times new roman';font-size:medium;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px"><span style="font-family:"times new roman";font-size:medium;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;float:none;display:inline!important;color:rgb(0,0,0)">Mike Hammett</span><br style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:'times new roman';font-size:medium;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px"><a href="http://www.ics-il.com/" style="font-family:"times new roman";font-size:medium;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Intelligent Computing Solutions</a><br style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:'times new roman';font-size:medium;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL" style="font-family:"times new roman";font-size:medium;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><img src="http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png" style="border: 0pt none; font-family: "times new roman";"></a><a href="https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb" style="font-family:"times new roman";font-size:medium;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><img src="http://www.ics-il.com/images/googleicon.png" style="border: 0pt none; font-family: "times new roman";"></a><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions" style="font-family:"times new roman";font-size:medium;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;text-inde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></div><div style="font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif">So I retract my comments in that regard… They are a traditional telephant and I think that terrestrial 5G on 12Ghz is even less useful.</div><div style="font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif"><br></div><div style="font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif"><blockquote style="font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif"><div style="font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif"><blockquote style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none">OTOH, I think Starlink is most definitely an interesting product that does provide a clear path to reasonable alternatives to the incumbent telephants.<br></blockquote><span style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;float:none;display:inline!important">Especially when you factor in mobility when they get there. No more roaming fees, all over the world.</span><br style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none"></div></blockquote><div style="font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif"><br></div>Yep… Probably one of the reasons DishT&T is trying to fight so hard to cause them grief.</div><div style="font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif"><br></div><div style="font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif">Owen</div><div style="font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif"><br></div></div><br></div></div></div></blockquote></div></div>