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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 6/10/22 6:52 AM, Mike Hammett wrote:<br>
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10pt; color: #000000">Due to the demand being predominately in
the downward direction, half-duplex (or effectively half-duplex)
systems either allocate more TDMA slots or more channels to
downstream, at the expense of upstream.<br>
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<p>Well, my dsl provider has like a 25/5 50/10 so clearly everybody
has the headroom to get to 10 at least. Marketing, of course, but
I wonder how many support calls they got because "my internet is
slow" from saturated upstream with zoom calls. I mean, most users
have no clue about such things.</p>
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Mike Hammett<br>
Intelligent Computing Solutions<br>
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</b>"Michael Thomas" <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:mike@mtcc.com"><mike@mtcc.com></a><br>
<b>To: </b><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:nanog@nanog.org">nanog@nanog.org</a><br>
<b>Sent: </b>Thursday, June 9, 2022 3:46:24 PM<br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: Upstream bandwidth usage<br>
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On 6/9/22 1:26 PM, Mel Beckman wrote:<br>
> With 430 GB versus 32 GV average down versus up usage
today, according <br>
> to your article, this is still not a case for symmetrical
consumer <br>
> bandwidth. Yes, the upstream usage increased slightly
more than the <br>
> downstream usage. But the ratio was still so big that it
would take <br>
> decades for them to join. I doubt they ever will.
Consumers just don’t <br>
> have that much days up to push yet, and probably never
will.<br>
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> Also, a lot of that Usage can be explained by video
conferencing <br>
> during Covid, which has dropped off significantly
already.<br>
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If it's so tiny, why shape it aggressively? Why shouldn't I be
able to <br>
burst to whatever is available at the moment? I would think
most users <br>
would be happy with that.<br>
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Mike<br>
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