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<div class="">On 5 May 2022, at 7:12 AM, William Herrin <<a href="mailto:bill@herrin.us" class="">bill@herrin.us</a>> wrote:</div>
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<div class="">On Thu, May 5, 2022 at 3:09 AM Joe Greco <<a href="mailto:jgreco@ns.sol.net" class="">jgreco@ns.sol.net</a>> wrote:<br class="">
<blockquote type="cite" class="">It seems to me like the court overstepped here and issued a ruling<br class="">
that contained a lot of wishful thinking that doesn't reflect the<br class="">
ability of miscreants on the Internet to just rapidly register a new<br class="">
domain name with a new fake credit card. Certainly it is trivial<br class="">
to host the actual websites well out of legal reach of US courts,<br class="">
and with domain registrars without US presence. This leaves those<br class="">
of us in the network operations community in the position of<br class="">
shouldering costs to comply with a court order, but without a clear<br class="">
mechanism to continue to be in compliance. This could become a full<br class="">
time job, if the defendants want to play the game right. "<a href="http://israel.tv" class="">israel.tv</a>"?<br class="">
"<a href="http://1srael.tv" class="">1srael.tv</a>" (with a "1" or "L" for the first letter, etc).<br class="">
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Is anybody here considering recovering compliance costs from the<br class="">
plaintiffs?<br class="">
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Check with your lawyer to be sure and then ignore the ruling. A judge<br class="">
in a civil case definitely does not have the authority to bind folks<br class="">
who are not parties to the suit. It's a fairly basic due process<br class="">
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<div class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"></span>That approach may be viable with one judgement from a court that you don’t share jurisdiction with, but probably doesn’t scale any more than the proposed technical measures...</div>
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<div class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"></span>I.e. it’s probably wise for there to be some degree of constructive engagement and education over these orders, as absence of such will inevitably lead to an abundance of similar rulings
as other plaintiffs in the online content industry seek the same “all ISP” remedies - e.g., from <<a href="https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/2022/05/02/piracy-websites-isp-block/" class="">https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/2022/05/02/piracy-websites-isp-block/</a>>
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<div class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"></span>"In the approaching months and years, it’ll be interesting to see whether the move becomes a common component of judgements in similar stateside cases.”</div>
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<div class="">Best wishes,</div>
<div class="">/John</div>
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<div class="">John Curran</div>
<div class="">President and CEO</div>
<div class="">American Registry for Internet Numbers</div>
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