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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix"><font size="4">Hi, Pascal:<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix"><font size="4">1)    " ... <span
          style="font-size:11.0pt"> for the next version. ... </span>  
        ":    I am not sure that I can wait for so long, because I am
        asking for the basics. The reason that I asked for an IP packet
        header example of your proposal is to visualize what do you mean
        by the model of "realms and shafts in a multi-level building".
        The presentation in the draft  sounds okay, because the floors
        are physically isolated from one another. And, even the building
        is isolated from other buildings. This is pretty much how PBX
        numbering plan worked. <br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix"><font size="4">2)    When you extend
        each floor to use the whole IPv4 address pool, however, you are
        essential talking about covering the entire surface of the
        earth. Then, there is no isolated buildings with isolated floors
        to deploy your model anymore. There is only one spherical layer
        of physical earth surface for you to use as a realm, which is
        the current IPv4 deployment. How could you still have multiple
        full IPv4 address sets deployed, yet not seeing their identical
        twins, triplets, etc.? Are you proposing multiple spherical
        layers of "realms", one on top of the other?<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix"><font size="4">2)    When I cited the
        DotConnectAfrica graphic logo as a visual model for the EzIP
        deployment over current IPv4, I was pretty specific that each
        RAN was tethered from the current Internet core via one IPv4
        address. We were very careful about isolating the netblocks in
        terms of which one does what. In other words, even though the
        collection of RANs form a parallel cyberspace to the Internet,
        you may look at each RAN as an isolated balloon for others. So
        that each RAN can </font><font size="4"><font size="4">use up
          the entire 240/4 netblock. <br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix"><font size="4">Please clarify your
        configuration.</font></div>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix"><font size="4">Thanks,</font></div>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix"><font size="4">Abe (2022-04-01 17:44) 
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2022-04-01 10:55, Abraham Y. Chen
      wrote:<br>
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      <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2022-04-01 10:00, Pascal Thubert
        (pthubert) wrote:<br>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Calibri"><span
                style="font-size:11.0pt">Makes sense, </span></font><font
              size="2" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Abe,
                for the next version.</span></font><font size="2"
              face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Calibri"><span
                style="font-size:11.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Calibri"><span
                style="font-size:11.0pt">Note that the intention is NOT
                any to ANY. A native IPv6 IoT device can only talk to
                another IPv6 device, where that other device may use a
                YATT address or any other IPv6 address.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Calibri"><span
                style="font-size:11.0pt">But it cannot talk to a YADA
                node. That’s what I mean by baby steps for those who
                want to.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Calibri"><span
                style="font-size:11.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Calibri"><span
                style="font-size:11.0pt">Keep safe;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Calibri"><span
                style="font-size:11.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Calibri"><span
                style="font-size:11.0pt">Pascal<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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                <p class="MsoNormal"><b><font size="2" face="Calibri"><span
                        style="font-size:11.0pt;font-weight:bold">From:</span></font></b>
                  Abraham Y. Chen <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
                    href="mailto:aychen@avinta.com"
                    moz-do-not-send="true"><aychen@avinta.com></a>
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                  <b><span style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b>
                  vendredi 1 avril 2022 15:49<br>
                  <b><span style="font-weight:bold">To:</span></b>
                  Vasilenko Eduard <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
                    href="mailto:vasilenko.eduard@huawei.com"
                    moz-do-not-send="true"><vasilenko.eduard@huawei.com></a>;
                  Pascal Thubert (pthubert) <a
                    class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
                    href="mailto:pthubert@cisco.com"
                    moz-do-not-send="true"><pthubert@cisco.com></a>;
                  Justin Streiner <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
                    href="mailto:streinerj@gmail.com"
                    moz-do-not-send="true"><streinerj@gmail.com></a><br>
                  <b><span style="font-weight:bold">Cc:</span></b> NANOG
                  <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
                    href="mailto:nanog@nanog.org" moz-do-not-send="true"><nanog@nanog.org></a><br>
                  <b><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b>
                  Re: Let's Focus on Moving Forward Re: V6 still not
                  supported re: 202203261833.AYC<o:p></o:p></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal"><font size="4" face="Calibri"><span
                    style="font-size:13.5pt">Hi, Pascal:</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal"><font size="4" face="Calibri"><span
                    style="font-size:13.5pt">What I would appreciate is
                    an IP packet header design/definition layout,
                    word-by-word, ideally in bit-map style, of an
                    explicit presentation of all IP addresses involved
                    from one IoT in one realm to that in the second
                    realm. This will provide a clearer picture of how
                    the real world implementation may look like.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal"><font size="4" face="Calibri"><span
                    style="font-size:13.5pt">Thanks,</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal"><font size="4" face="Calibri"><span
                    style="font-size:13.5pt">Abe (2022-04-01 09:48)</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Calibri"><span
                    style="font-size:11.0pt">On 2022-04-01 08:49,
                    Vasilenko Eduard wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Calibri"
                  color="#1f497d"><span
                    style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">As I
                    understand: “IPv4 Realms” between “Shaft” should be
                    capable to have a plain IPv4 header (or else why all
                    of these).</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Calibri"
                  color="#1f497d"><span
                    style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Then Gateway
                    in the Shaft should change headers (from IPv4 to
                    IPv6).</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Calibri"
                  color="#1f497d"><span
                    style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Who should
                    implement this gateway and why? He should be
                    formally appointed to such an exercise, right?</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Calibri"
                  color="#1f497d"><span
                    style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Map this 2
                    level hierarchy to the real world – you may fail
                    with this.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Calibri"
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                    style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Ed/</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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                  <p class="MsoNormal"><b><font size="2" face="Calibri"><span
                          style="font-size:11.0pt;font-weight:bold">From:</span></font></b>
                    Pascal Thubert (pthubert) [<a
                      href="mailto:pthubert@cisco.com"
                      moz-do-not-send="true">mailto:pthubert@cisco.com</a>]
                    <br>
                    <b><span style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b>
                    Friday, April 1, 2022 3:41 PM<br>
                    <b><span style="font-weight:bold">To:</span></b>
                    Vasilenko Eduard <a
                      href="mailto:vasilenko.eduard@huawei.com"
                      moz-do-not-send="true">
                      <vasilenko.eduard@huawei.com></a>; Justin
                    Streiner <a href="mailto:streinerj@gmail.com"
                      moz-do-not-send="true">
                      <streinerj@gmail.com></a>; Abraham Y. Chen <a
                      href="mailto:aychen@avinta.com"
                      moz-do-not-send="true"><aychen@avinta.com></a><br>
                    <b><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b>
                    RE: Let's Focus on Moving Forward Re: V6 still not
                    supported re: 202203261833.AYC<o:p></o:p></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Calibri"><span
                    style="font-size:11.0pt"> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Calibri"><span
                    style="font-size:11.0pt">Hello Eduard:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Calibri"><span
                    style="font-size:11.0pt"> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Calibri"><span
                    style="font-size:11.0pt">Did you just demonstrate
                    that POPs cannot exist? Or that there cannot be a
                    Default Free Zone?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Calibri"><span
                    style="font-size:11.0pt">I agree with your real
                    world issue that some things will have to be planned
                    between stake holders, and that it will not be easy.
                    <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Calibri"><span
                    style="font-size:11.0pt">But you know what the
                    French say about “impossible”.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Calibri"><span
                    style="font-size:11.0pt">Or to paraphrase Sir
                    Arthur, now that we have eliminated all the
                    impossible transition scenarios, whatever remains…<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Calibri"><span
                    style="font-size:11.0pt"> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Calibri"><span
                    style="font-size:11.0pt">There will be YADA prefixes
                    just like there are root DNS. To be managed by
                    different players as you point out. And all routable
                    within the same shaft.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Calibri"><span
                    style="font-size:11.0pt"> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Calibri"><span
                    style="font-size:11.0pt">Keep safe;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Calibri"><span
                    style="font-size:11.0pt"> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Calibri"><span
                    style="font-size:11.0pt">Pascal<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Calibri"><span
                    style="font-size:11.0pt"> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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                            style="font-size:11.0pt;font-weight:bold">From:</span></font></b>
                      Vasilenko Eduard <<a
                        href="mailto:vasilenko.eduard@huawei.com"
                        moz-do-not-send="true"
                        class="moz-txt-link-freetext">vasilenko.eduard@huawei.com</a>>
                      <br>
                      <b><span style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b>
                      vendredi 1 avril 2022 14:32<br>
                      <b><span style="font-weight:bold">To:</span></b>
                      Pascal Thubert (pthubert) <<a
                        href="mailto:pthubert@cisco.com"
                        moz-do-not-send="true"
                        class="moz-txt-link-freetext">pthubert@cisco.com</a>>;
                      Justin Streiner <<a
                        href="mailto:streinerj@gmail.com"
                        moz-do-not-send="true"
                        class="moz-txt-link-freetext">streinerj@gmail.com</a>>;
                      Abraham Y. Chen <<a
                        href="mailto:aychen@avinta.com"
                        moz-do-not-send="true"
                        class="moz-txt-link-freetext">aychen@avinta.com</a>><br>
                      <b><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b>
                      RE: Let's Focus on Moving Forward Re: V6 still not
                      supported re: 202203261833.AYC<o:p></o:p></p>
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                <p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Calibri"><span
                      style="font-size:11.0pt"> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Calibri"
                    color="#1f497d"><span
                      style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Hi Pascal,</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Calibri"
                    color="#1f497d"><span
                      style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">In general,
                      your idea to create a hierarchy is good.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Calibri"
                    color="#1f497d"><span
                      style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">In
                      practice, it would fail because you have created a
                      virtual hierarchy that does not map to any
                      administrative border. Who should implement
                      gateways for the “Shaft”? Why?</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Calibri"
                    color="#1f497d"><span
                      style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">If you
                      would appoint Carrier as the Shaft responsible
                      then it is not enough bits for Shaft.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Calibri"
                    color="#1f497d"><span
                      style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">If you
                      would appoint Governments as the Shaft responsible
                      then would be a so big scandal that you would
                      regret the proposal.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Calibri"
                    color="#1f497d"><span
                      style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Hence, I do
                      not see proper mapping for the hierarchy to make
                      YADA successful.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Calibri"
                    color="#1f497d"><span
                      style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Eduard</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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                    <p class="MsoNormal"><b><font size="2"
                          face="Calibri"><span
                            style="font-size:11.0pt;font-weight:bold">From:</span></font></b>
                      NANOG [<a
                        href="mailto:nanog-bounces+vasilenko.eduard=huawei.com@nanog.org"
                        moz-do-not-send="true">mailto:nanog-bounces+vasilenko.eduard=huawei.com@nanog.org</a>]
                      <b><span style="font-weight:bold">On Behalf Of </span></b>Pascal
                      Thubert (pthubert) via NANOG<br>
                      <b><span style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b>
                      Friday, April 1, 2022 2:26 PM<br>
                      <b><span style="font-weight:bold">To:</span></b>
                      Justin Streiner <<a
                        href="mailto:streinerj@gmail.com"
                        moz-do-not-send="true"
                        class="moz-txt-link-freetext">streinerj@gmail.com</a>>;
                      Abraham Y. Chen <<a
                        href="mailto:aychen@avinta.com"
                        moz-do-not-send="true"
                        class="moz-txt-link-freetext">aychen@avinta.com</a>><br>
                      <b><span style="font-weight:bold">Cc:</span></b>
                      NANOG <<a href="mailto:nanog@nanog.org"
                        moz-do-not-send="true"
                        class="moz-txt-link-freetext">nanog@nanog.org</a>><br>
                      <b><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b>
                      RE: Let's Focus on Moving Forward Re: V6 still not
                      supported re: 202203261833.AYC<o:p></o:p></p>
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                <p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Calibri"><span
                      style="font-size:11.0pt"> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Calibri"><span
                      style="font-size:11.0pt">For the sake of it,
                      Justin, I just published <a
                        href="https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-thubert-v6ops-yada-yatt/"
                        moz-do-not-send="true"
                        class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-thubert-v6ops-yada-yatt/</a>.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Calibri"><span
                      style="font-size:11.0pt">The first section of the
                      draft (YADA) extends IPv4 range in an IPv4-only
                      world. For some people that might be enough and
                      I’m totally fine with that.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Calibri"><span
                      style="font-size:11.0pt"> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Calibri"><span
                      style="font-size:11.0pt">Keep safe;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Calibri"><span
                      style="font-size:11.0pt"> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Calibri"><span
                      style="font-size:11.0pt">Pascal<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Calibri"><span
                      style="font-size:11.0pt"> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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                      <p class="MsoNormal"><b><font size="2"
                            face="Calibri"><span
                              style="font-size:11.0pt;font-weight:bold">From:</span></font></b>
                        NANOG <<a
                          href="mailto:nanog-bounces+pthubert=cisco.com@nanog.org"
                          moz-do-not-send="true"
                          class="moz-txt-link-freetext">nanog-bounces+pthubert=cisco.com@nanog.org</a>>
                        <b><span style="font-weight:bold">On Behalf Of </span></b>Justin
                        Streiner<br>
                        <b><span style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b>
                        dimanche 27 mars 2022 18:12<br>
                        <b><span style="font-weight:bold">To:</span></b>
                        Abraham Y. Chen <<a
                          href="mailto:aychen@avinta.com"
                          moz-do-not-send="true"
                          class="moz-txt-link-freetext">aychen@avinta.com</a>><br>
                        <b><span style="font-weight:bold">Cc:</span></b>
                        NANOG <<a href="mailto:nanog@nanog.org"
                          moz-do-not-send="true"
                          class="moz-txt-link-freetext">nanog@nanog.org</a>><br>
                        <b><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b>
                        Re: Let's Focus on Moving Forward Re: V6 still
                        not supported re: 202203261833.AYC<o:p></o:p></p>
                    </div>
                  </div>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Calibri"><span
                        style="font-size:11.0pt"> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
                  <div>
                    <div>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Calibri"><span
                            style="font-size:11.0pt">Abe:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
                    </div>
                    <div>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Calibri"><span
                            style="font-size:11.0pt"> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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                      <p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Calibri"><span
                            style="font-size:11.0pt">To your first point
                            about denying that anyone is being stopped
                            from working on IPv4, I'm referring to users
                            being able to communicate via IPv4.  I have
                            seen no evidence of that.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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                    <div>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Calibri"><span
                            style="font-size:11.0pt"> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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                      <p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Calibri"><span
                            style="font-size:11.0pt">I'm not familiar
                            with the process of submitting ideas to
                            IETF, so I'll leave that for others who are
                            more knowledgeable on that to speak up if
                            they're so inclined.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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                      <p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Calibri"><span
                            style="font-size:11.0pt"> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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                      <p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Calibri"><span
                            style="font-size:11.0pt">Thank you<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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                      <p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Calibri"><span
                            style="font-size:11.0pt">jms<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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                    <p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Calibri"><span
                          style="font-size:11.0pt"> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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                        <p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2"
                            face="Calibri"><span
                              style="font-size:11.0pt">On Sat, Mar 26,
                              2022 at 6:43 PM Abraham Y. Chen <<a
                                href="mailto:aychen@avinta.com"
                                moz-do-not-send="true"
                                class="moz-txt-link-freetext">aychen@avinta.com</a>>
                              wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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                        <p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2"
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                              style="font-size:11.0pt"> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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                            <p class="MsoNormal"><font size="4"
                                face="Calibri"><span
                                  style="font-size:13.5pt">1)    "... no
                                  one is stopping anyone from working on
                                  IPv4 ...     ":   After all these
                                  discussions, are you still denying
                                  this basic issue? For example, there
                                  has not been any straightforward way
                                  to introduce IPv4 enhancement ideas to
                                  IETF since at least 2015. If you know
                                  the way, please make it public. I am
                                  sure that many are eager to learn
                                  about it. Thanks.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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