<div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Mar 31, 2022 at 9:05 AM Paul Timmins <<a href="mailto:paul@telcodata.us">paul@telcodata.us</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">On 3/31/22 11:38, Laura Smith via NANOG wrote:<br>
> However, perhaps someone would care to elaborate (either on or off-list) what the deal is with the requirement to sign NDAs with Cogent before they'll discuss things like why they still charge for BGP, or indeed any other technical or pricing matters. Seems weird ?!?<br>
<br>
Same reason your employer doesn't want employees telling each other <br>
their salary. Not every similarly situated customer pays the same for <br>
the same service.<br>
<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Having fought that issue[0], I'd like to point out that employees voluntarily </div><div>sharing salary data is federally protected speech in the US, and cannot </div><div>be waived through an employment contract:</div><div><br></div><div><a href="https://www.nlrb.gov/about-nlrb/rights-we-protect/your-rights/your-rights-to-discuss-wages#:~:text=Under%20the%20National%20Labor%20Relations,for%20mutual%20aid%20or%20protection">https://www.nlrb.gov/about-nlrb/rights-we-protect/your-rights/your-rights-to-discuss-wages#:~:text=Under%20the%20National%20Labor%20Relations,for%20mutual%20aid%20or%20protection</a>.<br></div><div><br></div><div>"<span style="color:rgb(27,27,27);font-family:"Source Sans Pro Web","Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Roboto,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:16px">Under the National Labor Relations Act (NLRA or the Act), employees have the right to communicate with other employees at their workplace about their wages.  Wages are a vital term and condition of employment, and discussions of wages are often preliminary to organizing or other actions for mutual aid or protection.</span><span style="color:rgb(27,27,27);font-family:"Source Sans Pro Web","Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Roboto,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:16px"> "</span></div><div><font color="#1b1b1b" face="Source Sans Pro Web, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Roboto, Arial, sans-serif"><span style="font-size:16px">..."</span></font><span style="color:rgb(27,27,27);font-family:"Source Sans Pro Web","Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Roboto,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:16px">policies that specifically prohibit the discussion of wages are unlawful."</span></div><div><span style="color:rgb(27,27,27);font-family:"Source Sans Pro Web","Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Roboto,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:16px"><br></span></div><div>I understand the parallelism you were aiming for, but </div><div>given how many people labour under the mistaken </div><div>notion that US companies can forbid you from talking </div><div>about your compensation, I felt it prudent to point out </div><div>that's actually not a terribly good comparison.   ^_^;</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks!</div><div><br></div><div>Matt</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>[0] <a href="https://www.quora.com/My-coworker-asked-about-my-salary-how-should-I-respond/answer/Matthew-Petach">https://www.quora.com/My-coworker-asked-about-my-salary-how-should-I-respond/answer/Matthew-Petach</a></div><div><br></div></div></div>