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<p><font size="4">Dear Borg:</font></p>
<p><font size="4">1) " ... I dont see a way of extending IPv4
without making it a new protocol. ... new IP protocol that is
much more similar to IPv4, just extends address space. ... ":
I believe that you will be pleasantly surprised at the proposal
summarized by the the below whitepaper. It proposes an overlay
architecture over the current Internet. As such, assignable IPv4
addresses are extended without the baggage of the current
Internet and no new protocol. To begin the deployment, all need
be done is "<b><i>disabling</i></b> the program code that has
been <b><i>disabling</i></b> the use of the 240/4 netblock" in
routers. <br>
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<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.avinta.com/phoenix-1/home/RevampTheInternet.pdf">https://www.avinta.com/phoenix-1/home/RevampTheInternet.pdf</a></font></p>
<p><font size="4">2) The "transition" will be mostly transparent
from ordinary users' point of view, because IoTs do not need be
reprogrammed. Please feel free to ask me to describe specific
issues that you may come across.</font></p>
<p><font size="4">Regards,</font></p>
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<p><font size="4">Abe (2022-03-18 12:43)</font><br>
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NANOG Digest, Vol 170, Issue 20
Message: 33
Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2022 09:36:40 +0100 (CET)
From: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:borg@uu3.net">borg@uu3.net</a>
To: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:nanog@nanog.org">nanog@nanog.org</a>
Subject: Re: V6 still not supported
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.2203180928500.16585@cube>
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
While Im dont like IPv6, I see it as a bad idea.
>From my knowledge I dont see a way of extending IPv4 without making it
a new protocol. It was not designed that way.
What I would LOVE to see that someone will pop in with new IP protocol
that is much more similar to IPv4, just extends address space and fixes
some well know issues. (for example remove netmask and use prefixlen/CIDR).
Other importand aspect is some kind of IPvX -> IPv4 interop, so you can
quickly put clients into new protocol and they have access to entire IPv4
internet out of the box.
Also, we need to please enterprises so we need largish RFC1918 space too.
Just my 2 cents again <span class="moz-smiley-s3" title=";)"></span>
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From: Matt Hoppes <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:mattlists@rivervalleyinternet.net"><mattlists@rivervalleyinternet.net></a>
To: Joe Maimon <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:jmaimon@jmaimon.com"><jmaimon@jmaimon.com></a>, <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:bzs@theworld.com">bzs@theworld.com</a>,
Tom Beecher <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:beecher@beecher.cc"><beecher@beecher.cc></a>
Cc: NANOG <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:nanog@nanog.org"><nanog@nanog.org></a>
Subject: Re: V6 still not supported
Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2022 23:34:19 -0500
At this point I would <b class="moz-txt-star"><span class="moz-txt-tag">*</span>love<span class="moz-txt-tag">*</span></b> to see IPv4 get extended, a software patch applied
to devices, and IPv6 die a quick painless death.
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<pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">Its not impossible to envision that IPv4 does not ever go away but actually
gets extended in such a way that it obsoletes IPv6. The longer this drags out
the less implausible it seems.
Joe
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