<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8" class=""><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><div class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Mar 16, 2022, at 12:20 PM, Owen DeLong via NANOG <<a href="mailto:nanog@nanog.org" class="">nanog@nanog.org</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><br class="">What struck me is how NONE of those challenges in doing IPv6 deployment<br class="">in the field had anything to do with fending off attempts to make IPv4<br class="">better.<br class=""><br class="">Let me say that again. Among all the reasons why IPv6 didn't take<br class="">over the world, NONE of them is "because we spent all our time<br class="">improving IPv4 standards instead".<br class=""></blockquote><br class=""><br class="">I’ll somewhat call bullshit on this conclusion from the data available. True, none<br class="">of the reasons directly claim “IPv6 isn’t good enough because we did X for v4<br class="">instead”, yet all of them in some way refer back to “insufficient resources to<br class="">make this the top priority.” which means that any resources being dedicated to<br class="">improving (or more accurately further band-aiding) IPv4 are effectively being<br class="">taken away from solving the problems that exist with IPv6 pretty much by<br class="">definition.<br class=""><br class="">So I will stand by my statement that if we put half of the effort that has been<br class="">spent discussing these 16 relatively useless /8s that would not significantly<br class="">improve the lifespan of IPv4 on resolving the barriers to deployment of IPv6,<br class="">we would actually have a lot less need for IPv4 and a lot more deployment of<br class="">IPv6 already.<br class=""><br class="">Owen<br class=""><br class=""></div></div></blockquote></div>Regarding<blockquote style="margin: 0 0 0 40px; border: none; padding: 0px;" class=""><div class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><span class="" style="float: none; display: inline !important;">all of them in some way refer back to “insufficient resources to</span></div></blockquote></div><div class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><span class="" style="float: none; display: inline !important;">make this the top priority.”</span></div></blockquote></div></blockquote><div class=""><div class=""><span class="" style="float: none; display: inline !important;">This is not a technical issue. It is a management issue where long term global goals are sacrificed for short term local goals e.g., “How do I make my numbers this month so my bonus happens?” The insufficiency is management incentives driving management behavior.</span></div></div><div class=""><span class="" style="float: none; display: inline !important;"><br class=""></span></div><div class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>James</div><div class=""><br class=""></div></div></body></html>