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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Actually I think the proposed bill
leaves AZ and HI on standard time. The bill's primary focus is on
stopping the changing of the clock twice a year.<br>
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Arizona time is supposedly MST all year but it is not consistent.
The Indian nations adopt their own rules whether to use DST or
not. Example: the Navajo nations uses DST but Hopi nation
doesn't. You can plot a trip from east to west across AZ and have
to change your clock seven times!<br>
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On 3/15/2022 12:44 PM, Mel Beckman wrote:<br>
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We already have this problem with Arizona, which never changes
time for the summer. <br>
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<div dir="ltr">If Canada doesn't do the same thing at the same
time, it'll be a real hassle, dealing with a change from -8
to -7 crossing the border between BC and WA, for instance.
It has to be done consistently throughout North America.
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, 15 Mar 2022 at
12:35, Jay R. Ashworth <<a
href="mailto:jra@baylink.com" moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">jra@baylink.com</a>>
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The bill is "permanently move all US time zones one hour
earlier (-8 thru -5 is <br>
replaced permanently with -7 thru -4).<br>
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They are *calling it* "permanent DST", but that's not
really what's happening, <br>
in my engineering appraisal. Or my geopolitical one, but
I don't lay claim <br>
to professional opinions there.<br>
-- jra<br>
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----- Original Message -----<br>
> From: "Mel Beckman" <<a
href="mailto:mel@beckman.org" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">mel@beckman.org</a>><br>
> To: "jra" <<a href="mailto:jra@baylink.com"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">jra@baylink.com</a>><br>
> Cc: "<a href="mailto:nanog@nanog.org" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">nanog@nanog.org</a>
list" <<a href="mailto:nanog@nanog.org" target="_blank"
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> Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2022 3:19:11 PM<br>
> Subject: Re: "Permanent" DST<br>
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> I don’t follow why cancelling DST has the effect of
moving the US fifteen<br>
> degrees to the east. Also, your subject line reads
“permanent DST”, but from<br>
> your language the bill will be permanent standard
time.<br>
> <br>
> I haven’t read the bill, but I’m hoping you can
explain your position more<br>
> clearly.<br>
> <br>
> -mel via cell<br>
> <br>
>> On Mar 15, 2022, at 3:13 PM, Jay R. Ashworth <<a
href="mailto:jra@baylink.com" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">jra@baylink.com</a>>
wrote:<br>
>> <br>
>> In a unanimous vote today, the US Senate
approved a bill which would<br>
>> <br>
>> 1) Cancel DST permanently, and<br>
>> 2) Move every square inch of US territory 15
degrees to the east.<br>
>> <br>
>> My opinion of this ought to be obvious from my
rhetoric. Hopefully, it will<br>
>> fail, because it's likely to be the end of
rational time worldwide, and even<br>
>> if you do log in UTC, it will still make your
life difficult.<br>
>> <br>
>> I'm poleaxed; I can't even decide which grounds
to scream about this on...<br>
>> <br>
>> Hopefully, the House or the White House will be
more coherent in their<br>
>> decision on this engineering construct.<br>
>> <br>
>> Cheers,<br>
>> -- jra<br>
>> <br>
>> --<br>
>> Jay R. Ashworth Baylink
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>> Designer The Things I Think
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