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Sylvain,
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<div>Thank you for posting this plausible scenario. It is this kind of bad effect that I’m concerned about.</div>
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<div>Consider also that the document doesn’t specify government specifically, only “agencies“, without defining what those are. I think it’s quite possible that a future operational team might decide that particular political party is an agency requiring sanctions.<br>
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<blockquote type="cite">On Mar 11, 2022, at 6:21 AM, Sylvain Baya <abscoco@gmail.com> wrote:<br>
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<div>Hope this email finds you in good health!</div>
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<div>Please see my comments below, inline...<br>
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Le vendredi 11 mars 2022, Brandon Price <<a href="mailto:PriceB@sherwoodoregon.gov">PriceB@sherwoodoregon.gov</a>> a écrit :<br>
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From: NANOG <nanog-bounces+priceb=<a href="mailto:sherwoodoregon.gov@nanog.org">sherwood<wbr>oregon.gov@nanog.org</a>> On Behalf Of Bill Woodcock<br>
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2022 11:37 AM<br>
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Subject: Re: The role of Internet governance in sanctions<br>
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>Perhaps not. My goal is to minimize Internet disconnection. Maybe that’s not your goal. I was trying to give what you wrote the most generous possible interpretation.<br>
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There is no realistic way for these disconnects to happen now, as acknowledged by the fifth principal in the draft. How does creating a framework to accomplish this do anything other than increase the disconnects?<br>
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<div>Hi Brandon,</div>
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<div>Thanks for your email, brother!</div>
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<div>You put forward a good objection for this proposal.</div>
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<div>...i think the proposal is a wise idea, but imho it can</div>
<div> not touch the root-causes of the problem at hand.</div>
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<div>It seems to be the same approach as the anti-shutdown</div>
<div> DPP (Draft Policy Proposal) [1].</div>
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<div>[1]: <<a href="https://afrinic.net/policy/archive/anti-shutdown-02/amp">https://afrinic.net/policy/archive/anti-shutdown-02/amp</a>></div>
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<div>Applying sanctions to a country has side effects... :'-(</div>
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<div>To figure it out, one should look at the below scenario:</div>
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<div>1] This draft proposal reaches a rough consensus</div>
<div>2] A selection is done to build the Operational Team (OT) </div>
<div>3] The OT agrees on a rough consensus on the </div>
<div>decision to apply specific sanctions on a given </div>
<div>country government's Internet infrastructure used </div>
<div>to spread their "propaganda" globaly...</div>
<div>4] The OT implements the consensual decision</div>
<div>5] The Internet's infrastructure of that ccGov is </div>
<div>shutdown. No more trafic from it to the Internet!</div>
<div>6] That ccGov decides to cut the rest of the </div>
<div>Internet's interconnexions of their country to the </div>
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<div>7] The whole country is unreacheable from the Internet</div>
<div>8] That ccGov is the only source of "information"</div>
<div> within their country boundaries </div>
<div>9] ...</div>
<div>~°~</div>
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<div>As the draft proposal seems to target cc Governments,</div>
<div> practically speaking, then what if the policy-decision</div>
<div> to be implemented concerns the usGov?</div>
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<div>Thanks.</div>
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<div>Shalom,</div>
<div>--sb.</div>
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