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<div class="moz-cite-prefix"><font size="4">1) Re: Ur. Pt. 1)
" ... the number is 46% in the USA. ": Whoa! Your revised
number is even higher. And, I could round it up to 50%!
Seriously, please be specific about where are you reading the
number that you are reporting? I commented after reading your
second reference, because I could not find relevant data from
the first one. Is there something hidden there? Please identify.</font></div>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix"><font size="4">2) Re: Ur. Pt. 2):
I have to wait for your clarification for Pt. 1) above to
proceed with these additional statements.</font></div>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix"><font size="4">Abe (2022-03-11 15:06)<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2022-03-11 11:19, Ca By wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Mar 11, 2022 at 7:15
AM Abraham Y. Chen <<a href="mailto:aychen@avinta.com"
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<p><font style="color:rgb(0,0,0)" size="4">Dear Ca By:</font></p>
<p><font style="color:rgb(0,0,0)" size="4">1) It
appears that you are reading the Google graph too
optimistically, or incorrectly. That is, the highest
peaks of the graph are about 38%. The average of the
graph is about 36%. Citing "over 40%" from these is a
gross exaggeration. In fact, the peaks were reached on
weekends and holidays due to more residential usage,
you can clearly see such by zooming into the graph. In
addition, the graph has been exhibiting an
asymptomatic trend ever since a few years back. The
COVID-19 pushed this graph up a bit due to the
lock-down and work-from-home factors. Below was an
analysis pre-pandemic:</font></p>
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<div dir="auto">Sorry for being imprecise in my communication,
the number is 46% in the USA.</div>
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<p><font style="color:rgb(0,0,0)" size="4"> <a
href="https://circleid.com/posts/20190529_digging_into_ipv6_traffic_to_google_is_28_percent_deployment_limit/"
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<p><font style="color:rgb(0,0,0)" size="4">2) Since
Google is one of the stronger IPv6 promoters, usage of
IPv6 outside of the Google domain can only be lower,
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<div dir="auto">Google’s number represents how many users
reach it over ipv6. Given Google’s ubiquity in the usa, it
is a fair barometer for the usa at large. This data is
helpful for content providers estimating demand for ipv6
(46% of users will use ipv6 if it is available) and for the
network operator community to understand where their peers
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<div dir="auto">In summary, there is a lot of ipv6 on the usa
internet today. Almost half for Google, per their published
numbers. Over 75% end to end ipv6 on some large mobile
networks. Hence my appeal to view published data.</div>
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<div dir="auto">Reading anecdotal Nanog mails from a handful
of folks concluding ipv6 has failed will not leave the
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NANOG Digest, Vol 170, Issue 12
Message: 12
Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2022 08:00:17 -0800
From: Ca By <a href="mailto:cb.list6@gmail.com" target="_blank" style="font-family:monospace" moz-do-not-send="true"><cb.list6@gmail.com></a>
To: Saku Ytti <a href="mailto:saku@ytti.fi" target="_blank" style="font-family:monospace" moz-do-not-send="true"><saku@ytti.fi></a>
Cc: Joe Greco <a href="mailto:jgreco@ns.sol.net" target="_blank" style="font-family:monospace" moz-do-not-send="true"><jgreco@ns.sol.net></a>, <a href="mailto:nanog@nanog.org" target="_blank" style="font-family:monospace" moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">nanog@nanog.org</a>
Subject: Re: V6 still not supported (was Re: CC: s to Non List Members
(was Re: 202203080924.AYC Re: 202203071610.AYC Re: Making Use of 240/4
NetBlock))
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On Wed, Mar 9, 2022 at 11:56 PM Saku Ytti <a href="mailto:saku@ytti.fi" target="_blank" style="font-family:monospace" moz-do-not-send="true"><saku@ytti.fi></a> wrote:
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<pre style="font-family:monospace">On Wed, 9 Mar 2022 at 21:00, Joe Greco <a href="mailto:jgreco@ns.sol.net" target="_blank" style="font-family:monospace" moz-do-not-send="true"><jgreco@ns.sol.net></a> wrote:
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<pre style="font-family:monospace">I really never thought it'd be 2022 and my networks would be still
heavily v4. Mind boggling.
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<pre style="font-family:monospace">Same. And if we don't voluntarily agree to do something to it, it'll
be the same in 2042, we fucked up and those who come after us pay the
price of the insane amount of work and cost dual stack causes.
It is solvable, easily and cheaply, like most problems (energy,
climate), but not when so many poor leaders participate in decision
making.
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<pre style="font-family:monospace">Ah, the quarterly ipv6 thread? where i remind you all? most of the USA is
on ipv6 (all your smartphone, many of your home router, a growing amount of
your clouds [i see you aws])
<a href="https://www.worldipv6launch.org/measurements/" target="_blank" style="font-family:monospace" moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://www.worldipv6launch.org/measurements/</a>
Google sees over 40% of their users on ipv6, with superior latency
<a href="https://www.google.com/intl/en/ipv6/statistics.html" target="_blank" style="font-family:monospace" moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://www.google.com/intl/en/ipv6/statistics.html</a>
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